2020 BMW (G11/G12) 7 Series LCI Facelift LEAKED

MParallel · 01-09-2019, 02:22 PM

These kidneys ruin the whole car.

Mani59 · 01-09-2019, 02:26 PM

What is going on with the once great designs of BMW from the 80s/90s/early 00s! All relevance of history and trademark has gone out of the window with these hideous designs.

Rupes · 01-09-2019, 02:33 PM

Is China still BMW's biggest market? I'm sure they will appreciate the new kidney grill design.

The rest of the world... not so much...

sjak92 · 01-09-2019, 03:04 PM

I like it, think it will look better in person and with black grills. The X5 certainly look better in the flesh than in photos.

Has anyone noticed that only a part of that Kidney grill seems to be active rather than full height (I see a small square cut out in each?)

Teutonic · 01-09-2019, 05:08 PM

That grill is a vomit. Sorry.

aaaaah · 01-09-2019, 05:34 PM

Best photoshop courtesy of Jalopnik. Looks much better though I wish the bronze-ish trim trend would die before it started.

IB M · 01-09-2019, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mecheng77

I always find it amazing that beauty is subjective but the opinions are unanimous; the grill is too imposing. Reminds me of when Acura put that beak on the TL and ruined the styling.

I think each 7 series was very handsome for its time.

Enjoy the pic

Well done

and yeah that Acura beak was right up there with the Pontiac Aztec for ugliest car of the decade.

nathanm4 · 01-09-2019, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

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Originally Posted by nathanm4

BMW design is getting worse. So boring compared to Audi and Mercedes.

Oh yeah, Audi and Mercedes are so exciting.(!!!!!!)
They're both have the same design in their entire lineup. From A class to S class or from A3 to A8.

You are exaggerating it. If you think what you said is right, then BMW does the same. You just shot yourself in the foot.

Logical · 01-09-2019, 08:45 PM

Hideous

truep287 · 01-09-2019, 09:59 PM

Those grilles are hideous. What a sad chapter in the history of BMW.

bobloblaw · 01-09-2019, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FC05

Why people complaining about big grills ?
Look at other brands, grill sizes are much bigger than BMW even compare to this LCI 7.

Went to a showroom the other day and the new X5 looks fine to me.

The current Audi and Lexus grilles were designed to be huge from the get go. I don't think Mercedes grilles look that big. I just don't think the current iteration of the kidney grilles look good at such a large size. I understand eventually they have to fit the autonomous sensors in that area and it's probably inevitable, but I think the kidney grilles are iconic enough that they could keep them proportional and the car would be recognizable as a BMW. And BMW connecting them together makes them look even less distinctive. I think they could've been on the right side of history with keeping the grilles normal sized when everyone else went supersized, but they couldn't resist.

I think eventually they can look good if they stretch them out vertically, like a more toned down version of the Vision Dynamics concept. Apparently that's what the next 4 series is going to look like, so I'm curious to see how that will turn out.

RAFiK - BMWClubUAE · 01-09-2019, 10:49 PM

WTF is wrong with BMW and their humongous grilles

T!m3 · 01-10-2019, 12:26 AM

Looks much better

Joe S · 01-10-2019, 01:51 AM

Concept Design - Beautiful
Production car - Ugly

RAFiK - BMWClubUAE · 01-10-2019, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by T!m@

Looks much better

hahahaha

wdeerfield · 01-10-2019, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ellipsis212

Is this for real? Can they really have decided to put THAT big of a grille on it?

cost cutting measure. now you can swap grills between your x7 and you 7.

soon the same will go for the x5 and 5 series and then the g20 facelift will use the x3 grills.

wdeerfield · 01-10-2019, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AlteBMW

I happen to like it but that doesn't matter. The marketplace will be the judge. If the marketplace does not accept the new design, the message will be sent. For me, it doesn't matter because if a lot of people shy away, prices will go down.

the marketplace is corporate leases. they dont give a crap about the looks, just that its a 7 series and their business lease allowance covers it..

Wills2 · 01-10-2019, 06:51 AM

I think the rear end treatment is fine and freshens it up nicely, the grilles on the front are quite large, need to see it in the flesh.

AtlasCedar · 01-10-2019, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by aaaaah

Best photoshop courtesy of Jalopnik. Looks much better though I wish the bronze-ish trim trend would die before it started.

This is probably what the 5 series LCI will look like, more elegant I guess but less grandiose

Frosty · 01-10-2019, 10:21 AM

HA HA! ... you may have designed the 4 series coupe face

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Originally Posted by T!m@

Looks much better

Frosty · 01-10-2019, 10:23 AM

I know these are not designed for me but I'm so perplexed by the grill choices.. across the line...

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Originally Posted by truep287

Those grilles are hideous. What a sad chapter in the history of BMW.

Tommikins · 01-10-2019, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by teaston

Agreed! Soon BMW grilles will actually be larger than the car!!

I agree. The grill look like JAWS. Do not like it at all. Previous models grill looks much classier.

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