Two-Tone Cashmere Silver / Aventurine Red 2023 BMW 7-Series spotted at the Ring

[ThesaVeliona]

Originally Posted by hinckley

Here you go. The last truly beautiful BMW.

The F01 looked alright tbh.

[Ugly Kar]

Originally Posted by Veliona Vollerei

The F01 looked alright tbh.

Agreed. I've liked every new generation 7 until now. That thing in the first post is just hideous. The F90 and G15 are the only remaining beautiful BMW's. I'm sure before long BMW will find a way to make them look like something from a low budget 90's sci-fi movie.

I drew better looking cars when I was in 3rd grade.

[Quadruple VANOS]

Hideous car; horrible paint… All BMW needs to add is the gaudy bronze trim from the iX and the trifecta of ugly will be complete!

[E66er]

Originally Posted by Ugly Kar

I drew better looking cars when I was in 3rd grade.

Let's see one.

[alabesky]

Originally Posted by ghaffari46

I don't know where bmw find these designers!

Clearly from hyundai

[E66er]

Originally Posted by Veliona Vollerei

The F01 looked alright tbh.

With the right wheels almost all 7s look good. The ones before the E32 weren't good in my opinion.

[ThesaVeliona]

Originally Posted by E66er

With the right wheels almost all 7s look good. The ones before the E32 weren't good in my opinion.

AYO FINALLY SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T SAY E65/E66 WAS DOGSHIT (soz for the caps, Admins and mods.)

[xmanpro]

Second best looking 7 series imo. These will sell real well.

[Sublime00]

Originally Posted by Wstellin

Why is it many comments are negative about the looks of every model BMW. If it's not with the grill it's the paint or color scheme. This despite the fact BMW sales and interest are knocking the socks off their lux competition. I suspect not one percent of the commentators can even afford the new 7 Series

Is this really your conclusion?

This is a bmw forum with individuals who've either owned the previous iterations of the 7 or other bmw models and are clearly fans of the brand. Being critical of a model is part and parcel to that fandom.

I don't understand people who act like BMW enthusiasts (or any manufacturer's fan base) should love everything the companies produce/design, and if they don't, they're somehow betraying the brand or "can't even afford it".

[Ugly Kar]

Originally Posted by E66er

Let's see one.

Many many. Let's see something that looks worse. Maybe dog%*&$, but I mean a car.

[Cortexiphan]

Originally Posted by chris719

Everyone knows a new design and edgy design that pushes things forward will attract negative comments. A lot of people have taken it overboard.

At the same time, so have the designers. I don’t think the choice has to be bold OR handsome. I think you can do both. These new designs feel like a fad to me and not timeless. It feels like design is forgetting about the sporty, clean elegance that the brand had for a long time. Everything looks either garish or out of place somehow. If you wanted the 4er and M4 to push an edgy language, that’s fine, but we now see this everywhere in the line. Bangle butt worked because it was appropriate for the car. Flame surfacing worked on the Z4 because it was cohesive and harmonious with the rest of the car.

A 7 series should look like a BMW in its most refined form. It should evoke envy in those that gaze at it. I just don’t think this design achieves those goals. A great talking point, but a model to be forgotten in a future walk through the generations.

By the end of this car's lifecycle, we will be saying bye-bye to ICE engines. So the major advantage BMW had over competition for decades - the superior drivetrain- is gone. I'd never buy an Audi, because of how nose heavy they are for instance, same with Marc transmissions are never as good and too soft.. But now, the game is changing. Everybody has a clean slate. That is why BMW are successfully focusing on interiors, quality, comfort, and distinctive design and definitely attracts attention and making people talk. This 7 series next to and S class in a shop, will look exponentially more expensive and luxurious, and more confident with he help of the new bold design.

And I completely disagree with you on "forgettable", this is a future classic and will be very very memorable. First time ever 7 series nailed the interior and leapfrogged competition...

[Too__Hu///Mble]

Originally Posted by silverstar335

This exterior design will take some really getting used to. The G80s new design when it was first revealed now looks great in comparison.

Same here.

The lights are growing on me. Will be honest the black grille is helping to change my bias.

[Too__Hu///Mble]

Originally Posted by ///BMW Junkie

No bueno

They bringing down Rolls-Royce elements. What combo you'd prefer?

[NewQ]

Originally Posted by Sublime00

Is this really your conclusion?

This is a bmw forum with individuals who've either owned the previous iterations of the 7 or other bmw models and are clearly fans of the brand. Being critical of a model is part and parcel to that fandom.

I don't understand people who act like BMW enthusiasts (or any manufacturer's fan base) should love everything the companies produce/design, and if they don't, they're somehow betraying the brand or "can't even afford it".

I agree with previous poster. I'm laughing at the people on here decrying the design, the majority of whom couldn't afford it, and a significant minority could afford it, but don't buy cars like this (they like sports cars, etc.).

The point is, this car probably isn't for you, for one of those two reasons. It's not designed to appeal to you, so the fact that it doesn't, is not evidence of BMW's failure.

There's also a strong whiff of "back in my day" on here too, which can be summed up as "everything good ended after I exited my 20s".

[BrewsterGreenM550]

I'm sorry

[hinckley]

Originally Posted by chris719

A 7 series should look like a BMW in its most refined form. It should evoke envy in those that gaze at it. I just don’t think this design achieves those goals. A great talking point, but a model to be forgotten in a future walk through the generations.

Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

and distinctive design and definitely attracts attention and making people talk. This 7 series next to and S class in a shop, will look exponentially more expensive and luxurious, and more confident with he help of the new bold design.

The reason I believe that chris is right and Cortexiphan isn't, is because of this car's market. I should know. I'm 63 and have been driving BMWs since before some of the members here were born. I'm a huge fan of the brand (but not necessarily all its recent designs). But if I wanted a vehicle like the 7er, I'd buy an S Class without thinking. Younger people may like bold and edgy, but most older people prefer refined and sophisticated. People may talk about the 7er, but they'll buy the S Class.

[hinckley]

Originally Posted by NewQ

I agree with previous poster. I'm laughing at the people on here decrying the design, the majority of whom couldn't afford it, and a significant minority could afford it, but don't buy cars like this (they like sports cars, etc.).

The point is, this car probably isn't for you, for one of those two reasons. It's not designed to appeal to you, so the fact that it doesn't, is not evidence of BMW's failure.

There's also a strong whiff of "back in my day" on here too, which can be summed up as "everything good ended after I exited my 20s".

Let me give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that when you bring up whether posters can afford the car, you're insinuating that only those who can afford a 7er have opinions that matter.

OK, I can accept that concept.

But then you go on to completely ignore the fact that BMW has been trying edgy 7 series designs since the days of Bengle and they've fallen on their face. The people who can afford them, the people who want to buy them - don't. And THAT is evidence of BMW's failure.

[E66er]

Originally Posted by Ugly Kar

Many many. Let's see something that looks worse. Maybe dog%*&$, but I mean a car.

you think that's better than sketches of the G70?

[E66er]

Originally Posted by hinckley

But then you go on to completely ignore the fact that BMW has been trying edgy 7 series designs since the days of Bengle and they've fallen on their face. The people who can afford them, the people who want to buy them - don't. And THAT is evidence of BMW's failure.

Uhmmm...the Bangle 7 is a major sales success. In fact, the interior of the G70 is inspired by the Bangle 7



Why? because the guy who designed the E65 is now the boss of design at BMW...the entire group.

[hinckley]

Originally Posted by E66er

Uhmmm...the Bangle 7 is a major sales success.

I don't recall that, though I may be wrong. I thought the E65 was when the S Class really opened up its lead, but that the LCI helped a lot. I'll have to look-up the numbers.

[E66er]

Originally Posted by hinckley

I don't recall that, though I may be wrong. I thought the E65 was when the S Class really opened up its lead, but that the LCI helped a lot. I'll have to look-up the numbers.

You're wrong.

[Ugly Kar]

Originally Posted by hinckley

Let me give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that when you bring up whether posters can afford the car, you're insinuating that only those who can afford a 7er have opinions that matter.

OK, I can accept that concept.

But then you go on to completely ignore the fact that BMW has been trying edgy 7 series designs since the days of Bengle and they've fallen on their face. The people who can afford them, the people who want to buy them - don't. And THAT is evidence of BMW's failure.

I don't think the people that can afford them don't either. Those living paycheck to paycheck on credit do. But that's what they do, the old "can't afford it" when you have no argument. That's what losers do. They are hilarious.

I'll leave myself out of this argument, but I'll use a friend, who happens to be a billionaire. Even a Buggati Noir would be pocket change for him. You want to know one car he agrees with me 100% about, this hideous thing.

What he drives most is his 2022 Range Rover, which I agree is a beautiful, modern piece of art. Not for me, but a beautiful vehicle inside and out.