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      08-19-2019, 04:40 PM   #89
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What a lineup of cars - the "best" truly depends on the driver and intended street, back-road or track.

Hard to argue against the CSL/GTS treatment of any platform. With some searching an E46/E85/6 or E9X owner can start to build their own. Swapped the S54 CSL exhaust setup into my Z4M and it is a riot!
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A Z3M is the first BMW I ever drove, as my uncle has owned one for over 20 years. I’m not saying they aren’t great cars. I’m just saying, like the guys in this video also said, if you’re picking the best BMW M car ever, you want to go with BMW’s traditional “do everything” formula and pick a car with a backseat. BMW’s strength was always building practical cars that compete with sports cars. If you’re looking at outright sports cars, the competition is very different.
I can see your points, and have no issues with what you're saying here.

However, the point that I was disagreeing with you was regarding the Z not being favorably comparable to the Porsches. The M division has made some wild Z's that I would absolutely take over the Porsche counterparts (come to think of it, I did).
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I can see your points, and have no issues with what you're saying here.

However, the point that I was disagreeing with you was regarding the Z not being favorably comparable to the Porsches. The M division has made some wild Z's that I would absolutely take over the Porsche counterparts (come to think of it, I did).
Yeah, if I’m driving a two-seater, I want that engine behind me. It makes for an entirely different driving experience. BMWs are the compromise to me, in that you get the extra seats and trunk to make up for the front engine.
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They left out th3 E36. Again.
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They left out th3 E36. Again.
They talked about it.
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e92 M3GTS is best M3. Fact.
My thoughts as well---as well as the e90 CRT. The only special edition M3 that I would be ok paying the premium for---if it was available to purchase in the US, that is.
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My thoughts as well---as well as the e90 CRT. The only special edition M3 that I would be ok paying the premium for---if it was available to purchase in the US, that is.
CRT is amazing.

The GTSs are stupid, imo-- once you get rid of the back seat (for a cage), you might as well buy a dedicated sports car instead of one compromised by being a 4 seater at heart. The GTSs undermine the entire point of M cars to me-- a practical car that's also great to drive.

... but I'd still take a CSL over a CRT. 400 lbs lighter is a huge dynamic difference (and more like 440 lbs lighter after the IMO mandatory 6mt conversion of the CSL)
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