New car poll... Audi TTRS or Corvette GS Z07?

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

I'm a hater of all things GM, but the TT is and always has been a chick car lol. I've yet to see a single example of the newest ones on the road.

Not really. When I had my previous TTRS, I got multiple compliments from other car guys.

The standard TT, sure, but car guys know the TTRS isn't your garden variety TT, it's an RS performance motorsports model

[Germanauto]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

Not really. When I had my previous TTRS, I got multiple compliments from other car guys.

The standard TT, sure, but car guys know the TTRS isn't your garden variety TT, it's an RS performance motorsports model

True.

[toughluck]

I owned a GS and it was great! Magnetic ride is great. Research Ron Fellows Driving School if you buy new too. $1000 for new owners.

[TRZ06]

I have even considered adding a GT350 as an option too,but am a little hesitant because of its weight.

I already have the F80, I don't want another porker. I don't want to feel the weight fighting against you in the curves.

[aaaaah]

Buy a previous gen Cayman S/GTS if you want something you can chuck around.

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by aaaaah

Buy a previous gen Cayman S/GTS if you want something you can chuck around.

Too slow for what you pay.

I wouldn't be happy with anything less power wise than a GT4, and even then that's borderline for the price.

IMO, unless you get into the GT cars, Porsche is too expensive for what you get.

[Matt 335is]

Originally Posted by baege

skip both and get a cpo cayman gts...youll be much happier

Originally Posted by aaaaah

Buy a previous gen Cayman S/GTS if you want something you can chuck around.

Yes

[dgoldenz]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

Too slow for what you pay.

I wouldn't be happy with anything less power wise than a GT4, and even then that's borderline for the price.

IMO, unless you get into the GT cars, Porsche is too expensive for what you get.

You sound like a person that has not driven a Porsche but reads stuff online. First time I drove a cayman GTS I was blown away by how awesome it was. Ended up buying a 991S. Worth every penny. And it’s worth about $10k more now than when I bought it two years ago.

[c1pher]

Originally Posted by ScottSinger

Had anyone driven both the Chevy and the Audi ?

I have only driven the S3, Golf R, TTS, Stingray and Grand Sport. I haven’t seen a TTRS or RS3 anyone was willing to let me drive and most of the time they are already sold.

[c1pher]

Originally Posted by dgoldenz

You sound like a person that has not driven a Porsche but reads stuff online. First time I drove a cayman GTS I was blown away by how awesome it was. Ended up buying a 991S. Worth every penny. And it’s worth about $10k more now than when I bought it two years ago.

They are undoubtedly nice cars. But I’ve driven a lot of cars that include several Caymans. They are fun and comfortable, but I don’t get that special feeling that many people do. Before I bought my current Corvette (which never truly impressed me before the C7), I drove CPO Cayman and Cayman S plus the new base 718. I much preferred the sound of the flat six which does sound special.

Remember that Chevrolet benchmarks the 911, not the Cayman. The Porsche interior is slightly nicer, but the Corvette is no longer a slouch.

I really really really like the TTS interior, it’s better than either the Corvette or Porsche. When you sit in it, it looks and feels like something much more expensive. The drive is just more sterile and slightly numb though. The Golf R is actually more fun to drive despite sharing the same platform and drivetrain.

[c1pher]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

I have even considered adding a GT350 as an option too,but am a little hesitant because of its weight.

I already have the F80, I don't want another porker. I don't want to feel the weight fighting against you in the curves.

It’s interesting that Ford upped the weight when Chevy increased theirs and now Chevy shaved a bunch of weight off. As for the Camaro and Mustangs, they still all of the interior the 4cyl versions have. IMO, if you’re going to spend that kind of money, I’d go Corvette, Porsche, Audi etc.

[c1pher]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

Too slow for what you pay.

I wouldn't be happy with anything less power wise than a GT4, and even then that's borderline for the price.

IMO, unless you get into the GT cars, Porsche is too expensive for what you get.

Buying CPO Porsche helps with the price. And since they are very reliable and typically more likely to be dealer serviced, you should have fewer worries buying used. But part of why Porsche can be so expensive is because they are fairly bespoke if you order new.

[aaaaah]

Also I would buy an RS3 over a TTRS but that's just me.

Used 911 Turbo?

Trying to think of things that are in that pricepoint with at least 400hp and also relatively small.

[RM7]

Originally Posted by MGM135is

It’s interesting that Ford upped the weight when Chevy increased theirs and now Chevy shaved a bunch of weight off. As for the Camaro and Mustangs, they still all of the interior the 4cyl versions have. IMO, if you’re going to spend that kind of money, I’d go Corvette, Porsche, Audi etc.

Gotta disagree on that, I rented a 4cyl camaro a few months back on a trip and my 2SS 1LE feels very different inside, more aluminum trip, leather-padded interior trim, the suede recaro heated/ventilated seats and suede steering wheel, the bank of buttons that are actually functional above the air-vents, the display, the interior mood-lighting that has like 30 selectable colors, HUD, etc. The only things I give my BMW 4 is the I-drive, as it's simply easier with it to do everything on the computer with the controls and your arm resting on the console, and the cruise-control cancel button, which is taken up on the 2SS by the heated-steering wheel button (cancel by hitting the cruise on/off switch). We also looked up the shipping weights and the 2SS 1LE is only 8lbs heavier than the 1SS 1LE, due to the 1SS coming with the same seats with the piping and hardware for the ventillation already in the seats.

Is it perfect? Of course not, but I'd ask anyone to try and remove their bias when comparing the cars, there's miles of plastic in a 4 or M4, sometimes people tend to "tunnel vision" on the inlaid wood in one spot and forget they are surrounded by plastic, the interior is definitely a step up on the Camaro and the one I have is not like the 4cyl I rented a while back.

[Mr Carrots]

Originally Posted by MGM135is

I have only driven the S3, Golf R, TTS, Stingray and Grand Sport. I haven’t seen a TTRS or RS3 anyone was willing to let me drive and most of the time they are already sold.

The S3 was the most boring car I test drove, the power was seriously lacking too.

Obviously the TTRS fixes that problem, lol

[c1pher]

The 2.0t is a bit lazy until you push it.

[Mr Carrots]

Originally Posted by MGM135is

The 2.0t is a bit lazy until you push it.

Apparently it's great with a flash to wake it up but stock it felt like driving a corolla, the salesman was hyping it up and asking me how great it felt to drive - and I was asking him what the dealer policy on flash tunes was.

I'm tempted to swap my car for the RS3, 10.55 1/4 mile with just a tune. Kills me to know the B58 would be able to hang with that if BMW hadn't locked up the DME so tightly

[dgoldenz]

Originally Posted by MGM135is

They are undoubtedly nice cars. But I’ve driven a lot of cars that include several Caymans. They are fun and comfortable, but I don’t get that special feeling that many people do. Before I bought my current Corvette (which never truly impressed me before the C7), I drove CPO Cayman and Cayman S plus the new base 718. I much preferred the sound of the flat six which does sound special.

Remember that Chevrolet benchmarks the 911, not the Cayman. The Porsche interior is slightly nicer, but the Corvette is no longer a slouch.

I really really really like the TTS interior, it’s better than either the Corvette or Porsche. When you sit in it, it looks and feels like something much more expensive. The drive is just more sterile and slightly numb though. The Golf R is actually more fun to drive despite sharing the same platform and drivetrain.

So what you're saying is you haven't actually driven a Cayman GTS....which has one of the nicest interiors of any Porsche when the GTS interior package was chosen, and the exhaust sounds way better than a standard Cayman or S model. I'd take a Cayman GTS over a base 911 any day. The options list makes a massive difference in how every Porsche feels and performs. A loaded up GTS will be night and day versus a stripper base model or S. The GTS interior package is worlds away from a Corvette interior, it's not even close.

[///3dkn]

Wheres the actual Poll for this thread?

[yco]

what generally Audi is not telling about Quattro systems in TT and A3 is its not a real Quattro.. cause car is small for the system.. TT RS is a crazy fun car.. but i d go for the Corvette..

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by yco

what generally Audi is not telling about Quattro systems in TT and A3 is its not a real Quattro.. cause car is small for the system.. TT RS is a crazy fun car.. but i d go for the Corvette..

Yeah, it uses the Halex system however, it is just as potent and gives you AWD traction.

People try to use that as a negative, but I had the S4 as well and my old TTRS was just as great in the AWD department as the S4 which used the trademark "Quattro" system.

[TRZ06]

My main dilemma is trying to decide which is more important, 3.2ish 0-60 with a tune in the TTRS and just average handling at the limit OR 1.2g capable, stellar handling car with only RWD traction and a lessor interior.