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      08-21-2022, 11:27 AM   #1255
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I mean, it sounds good yea, but an angry flat six from a GT series is still unbeatable in my book.
Wouldn't the Porsche GT have to be better when it's priced so much higher? Who would chose the Z06 if they were price and availability was the same as GT3? They're two different tiers. Is anyone really surprised a much higher priced Porsche GT car is more desirable than a Corvette?
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I mean, it sounds good yea, but an angry flat six from a GT series is still unbeatable in my book.
Wouldn't the Porsche GT have to be better when it's priced so much higher? Who would chose the Z06 if they were price and availability was the same as GT3? They're two different tiers. Is anyone really surprised a much higher priced Porsche GT car is more desirable than a Corvette?
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      08-21-2022, 12:10 PM   #1257
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We already knew it sounds great. GM has not given us many specs that should already be out. What s crap show. Also, still not super car.
So far everyone is calling it a supercar. So basically the numbers are against you and a few others here.

Still a supercar until we see more performance data. If it falls short then it's just a high performance sports car. From what we know so far, even with that video i posted, shows all kinds of supercar action.

...................all kinds.

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Wouldn't the Porsche GT have to be better when it's priced so much higher? Who would chose the Z06 if they were price and availability was the same as GT3? They're two different tiers. Is anyone really surprised a much higher priced Porsche GT car is more desirable than a Corvette?

And a 718 is around the same price as a base ass C8 stingray.

How much is a 718 GT4?

Porsche has a thousand different models. Pick your poison on which one you want to compare to a corvette to help your argument.

GM has one sports car (now supercar), the corvette. That's it.

The C8Z is the second variant to come out in the C8 lineup and people want to throw shade at the car like there's no tomorrow lol.

That actually proves GM is doing this right. When people who are fans of other car makers feel threatened people want this z06 more than a GT3.

Because yes people want this car over a GT3. Where is the craze of all these dealer ADM's, all the hype, all the videos, all the social media mayhem about a GT3?

Please show me because i haven't seen shit on that car. In fact people would not even know they're still making a GT3 because no one talks about it.
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      08-21-2022, 01:30 PM   #1258
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I've always hated the 'supercar' moniker. Most of the time, it just means a good performer that comes w a super price. In the end, they're all sportscars and that's what I call ALL of them.
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      08-21-2022, 02:04 PM   #1259
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I for sure want a GT3 but not instead of and not before I have the C8Z. Because if I prioritized the GT3 over the Z06 I would already have a GT3, simple as that.

Part of that problem is that I want the newest version of whatever current car, I don't want a 991, I want a 992. As long as a 992 GT3 is 300k+ I can't get there and still keep the other cars I have that I want to keep.

The reality is, one day the M4CSL will turn into a GT3.
The Z06 will stay.
The R8 will stay.
Maybe one day I can add a V12 like an AV.
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GM has one sports car (now supercar), the corvette. That's it.
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GM has one sports car (now supercar), the corvette. That's it.
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Lol. Don't waste your time bro.
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      08-21-2022, 04:17 PM   #1262
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Ok let me correct myself.

GM has ONE HOLY GRAIL CAR, the corvette. That's it.

Their racing pedigree first gets implemented in their corvette street cars first.

Porsche has a thousand models. People want to compare a 911 turbo s to a corvette. Then a GT2RS. Then a GT3RS. Then a GT3. Then people say a 911 carerra is the one to get over a stingray. But then so is the 718 GT4. But what about just a regular 718 since it starts under 70k? yada yada yada.
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      08-21-2022, 04:18 PM   #1263
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I for sure want a GT3 but not instead of and not before I have the C8Z. Because if I prioritized the GT3 over the Z06 I would already have a GT3, simple as that.

Part of that problem is that I want the newest version of whatever current car, I don't want a 991, I want a 992. As long as a 992 GT3 is 300k+ I can't get there and still keep the other cars I have that I want to keep.

The reality is, one day the M4CSL will turn into a GT3.
The Z06 will stay.
The R8 will stay.
Maybe one day I can add a V12 like an AV.

That's respectable. Someone with an open mind.

People see corvette and automatically want to throw it under the bus, no matter what it's doing.

But it's ok, the proof is in the pudding. Everyone want's GM's first supercar!
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Porsche has a thousand models. People want to compare a 911 turbo s to a corvette. Then a GT2RS. Then a GT3RS. Then a GT3. Then people say a 911 carerra is the one to get over a stingray. But then so is the 718 GT4. But what about just a regular 718 since it starts under 70k? yada yada yada.
People are going to tell you they have 3 sports cars, 911, cayman and boxster, well, 2, since caymen and boxster is same chassis now. Everything else is just variations thereof, right?
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That's respectable. Someone with an open mind.

People see corvette and automatically want to throw it under the bus, no matter what it's doing.

But it's ok, the proof is in the pudding. Everyone want's GM's first supercar!
Well I have had 4 Vettes, 3 of which were Z06's one of which was stock, one with 800 rwhp, and two with 1000 rwhp.

I was always just going to get the C8Z, no matter what engine it had or how it sounded. The fact that its the last NA ICE and sounds like a million bucks just reinforces the idea that I will keep it forever. It's sick.
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People are going to tell you they have 3 sports cars, 911, cayman and boxster, well, 2, since caymen and boxster is same chassis now. Everything else is just variations thereof, right?
What i'm saying is that porsche has so many different models. My example of a 718 is that it's porsche's "entry level" porsche, which starts under 70k, about the same price as a stingray. Compare the numbers and stats of the 2. Not the 718 GT4, just the 718 in it's price point comparing to the stingray.

The stingray, in base form, is a mid engine DCT V8 car that is constantly being compared to 200-300k supercars. That's just the stingray.

The C8Z is GM's first supercar in my eyes until it fails on the track and it's not even released yet persay, 2 youtubers have showcased the car and people are shitting on it.

Porsche models have always been more expensive, which my 718 example is proof of that. Their entry level sports car is at the price point of the stingray. So more expensive doesn't always mean better. Did i say that in this thread?


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Well I have had 4 Vettes, 3 of which were Z06's one of which was stock, one with 800 rwhp, and two with 1000 rwhp.

I was always just going to get the C8Z, no matter what engine it had or how it sounded. The fact that its the last NA ICE and sounds like a million bucks just reinforces the idea that I will keep it forever. It's sick.

Exactly. That's my mindset as well. My C7Z is my 3rd corvette. My stingray coming will be my 4th and the C8Z coming right after it will be my 5th. I don't intend on keeping the stingray for more than 2 years. I might even trade it the day i pick up my C8Z, depending on the timeline. With how dumb these allocations have been so far with the C8Z, now i'm starting to doubt a 2023 spring delivery for me which sucks. Maybe summer 2023 i hope.

The C8Z is my forever car. Dodge just revealed their EV charger a couple of days ago. Which is cool. But meanwhile GM puts out an NA car making almost 700hp and people are annoyed lol.

Talk about corvette haters to the fullest! Can't wait to make more people drool when i get my C8's.
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Fast forward to 7:40 for the good stuff.

Man oh man... This car is BANANAS!!! Without question the most "Exotic sounding American car" ever! Whomever gets their hands on one of these first, will be beyond satisfied.

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Man oh man... This car is BANANAS!!! Without question the most "Exotic sounding American car" ever! Whomever gets their hands on one of these first, will be beyond satisfied.

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Man oh man... This car is BANANAS!!! Without question the most "Exotic sounding American car" ever! Whomever gets their hands on one of these first, will be beyond satisfied.


Anyone who doesn’t think this has potential to be gm first supercar is in denial. When the numbers are ran through and we see it’s capabilities then we’ll know for sure it is.
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So far everyone is calling it a supercar. So basically the numbers are against you and a few others here.

Still a supercar until we see more performance data. If it falls short then it's just a high performance sports car. From what we know so far, even with that video i posted, shows all kinds of supercar action.
Numbers against me mean nothing. Super car killer? Maybe as that is what Corvette Z cars do. We don't know yet. Super car? No, still mass produced Chevy.

Enjoy your hard on for it. I'm buying one too. Still not a super car
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Numbers against me mean nothing. Super car killer? Maybe as that is what Corvette Z cars do. We don't know yet. Super car? No, still mass produced Chevy.

Enjoy your hard on for it. I'm buying one too. Still not a super car
Go back and read the thread and you might find the only hard on is yours for BGM, lol.

Give the guy a break and let's all enjoy the Z06 when we get them instead of busting each others balls just for being excited about something. jesus christ. who gives AF if someone calls it a super car. let it go.
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Go back and read the thread and you might find the only hard on is yours for BGM, lol.

Give the guy a break and let's all enjoy the Z06 when we get them instead of busting each others balls just for being excited about something. jesus christ. who gives AF if someone calls it a super car. let it go.
So give him a break, but not me then? Also, who gives AF if I disagree? Let. It. Go.

Ok hypocrite. Good day.
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Look at this disgrace. Reminds me why I’ve always avoided GM dealerships like the plague.
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Go back and read the thread and you might find the only hard on is yours for BGM, lol.

Give the guy a break and let's all enjoy the Z06 when we get them instead of busting each others balls just for being excited about something. jesus christ. who gives AF if someone calls it a super car. let it go.

lol right?

How can someone be so mad someone is calling this a supercar? Even speedphenom who actually owns supercars calls this a supercar. Emelia has said this is a supercar and she owns supercars. She took it to hoonigan where those guys owns supercars and even they said that the car is now a supercar.

When other magazine owners get this car for testing, they'll call this a supercar. When randy pobst gets this car, he'll most likely say the same thing.

But yet a couple of dudes on a bimmer forum who says it isn't, and we should preach that like it gospel lol.

If people don't think it is, then it isn't. I think it is, and so far more and more people think it is.
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Look at this disgrace. Reminds me why I’ve always avoided GM dealerships like the plague.
Again. You pay that much over, you should ride a unicycle, wearing a big red nose juggling bowling pins on your way to the Chevy dealer🤡🤡🤡
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lol right?

How can someone be so mad someone is calling this a supercar? Even speedphenom who actually owns supercars calls this a supercar. Emelia has said this is a supercar and she owns supercars. She took it to hoonigan where those guys owns supercars and even they said that the car is now a supercar.

When other magazine owners get this car for testing, they'll call this a supercar. When randy pobst gets this car, he'll most likely say the same thing.

But yet a couple of dudes on a bimmer forum who says it isn't, and we should preach that like it gospel lol.

If people don't think it is, then it isn't. I think it is, and so far more and more people think it is.
Me disagreeing makes me "mad"? lmao you guys are ridiculous. Good day
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