2027 BMW G70 7-series / i7 LCI teaser & first person preview event impressions

[Kolegata]

Yes, i saw it yesterday on private bmw presentation. Was green, with grey black interior. The car is completely different inside and many changes front and back. Only seats are the same. Maybe because they are perfect. The car is amazing! You can choose even stiches on your leather. Tv back is with more options, can work with any app on your phone without esim, just with hotspot from your phone. Front is very agressive, looks more like aston martin.

[Tonibg]

Originally Posted by Kolegata

Yes, i saw it yesterday on private bmw presentation. Was green, with grey black interior. The car is completely different inside and many changes front and back. Only seats are the same. Maybe because they are perfect. The car is amazing! You can choose even stiches on your leather. Tv back is with more options, can work with any app on your phone without esim, just with hotspot from your phone. Front is very agressive, looks more like aston martin.

I saw the same color and interior. Apparently they were all the same. It was very dark at the presentation. Probably so that the cheap materials wouldn't be easily visible. In my opinion, nothing special. I wrote my personal opinion on the previous page.

[Elixxis]

Hi Kolegata, is the new grill wider or higher? Because you mentioned that M5 grill and this one is wider, but not that high.
And how did they design the area of the now missing drivers display?
New door handles also?
Do you know when the car will be presented?
Thank you
SL

[BimmerGuyFL78]

Originally Posted by Kolegata

Yes, i saw it yesterday on private bmw presentation. Was green, with grey black interior. The car is completely different inside and many changes front and back. Only seats are the same. Maybe because they are perfect. The car is amazing! You can choose even stiches on your leather. Tv back is with more options, can work with any app on your phone without esim, just with hotspot from your phone. Front is very agressive, looks more like aston martin.

Thank you for the response. Do you think you could draw what the front end looked like and post it on here?

[SW17LS]

Originally Posted by Tonibg

more than half of the dashboard is covered with fabric instead of leather. Such material is typical of the low class and not for the flagship of a premium manufacturer. The same is true for the current model. The BMW seventh series, which until recently used fine leather materials, has now replaced it with fabric.

Maybe its not the case overseas but the G70 7 Series here the dash and interior panels are all covered in stitched synthetic leather or full merino leather depending on the option package, same as it was in the G11/12 generation

[Wolfman64]

Originally Posted by BMW5and7

Well, the 7 Series already kissed the S a goodbye 3-4 years ago : )... Even if the 7 LCI is even just as good looking as the current with 0 improvements, after the current S facelift reveal, BMW is just going to widen the gap even more. They even have room for mistakes in my view.

By the way, the different in the LED DRL may not be that dramatic (just my guess) as the teaser photo suggest. The current G70 with photos taken from a lower angle just like the teaser also look as straight as that one. Can't find the same aggressive angle as the teaser, but this is close.

I think your views are overly optimistic in regards to the looks on the 7 series and the S-Class 😏

We are also a customer of both brands but the 7 series is just not a good looking car and the front end is a liability.
I wish the car would look as good as the S-class which is more elegant and the facelift has made that car less generic and more stately looking as well.

There is lots to like about the 7 series and I am really curious of how BMW tries to integrate the Neue Klasse elements into the dash design. Having a center screen (of any shape) would be hideous. The panorama screen should be easy and will look decent.
As for technical advances I haven’t seen anything from BMW that comes close to the MB.Drive Assist Pro.

Either way, it looks like the LCI should improve the front end. Not sure about the interior.


EDIT. Nevermind, I just saw that the single Neue Klasse screen in the center of the 7 series dash. That is unfortunate. No matter how much wood you put behind that screen, this will be ugly and disconnected. I think Mercedes should have installed the single screen dash of the new GLC in the facelifted S-Class but I think either will be worlds better. That said, I will reserve my opinion until I can see some proper pics.

[RJH52]

Originally Posted by Wolfman64

I think your views are overly optimistic in regards to the looks on the 7 series and the S-Class 😏

We are also a customer of both brands but the 7 series is just not a good looking car and the front end is a liability.
I wish the car would look as good as the S-class which is more elegant and the facelift has made that car less generic and more stately looking as well.

There is lots to like about the 7 series and I am really curious of how BMW tries to integrate the Neue Klasse elements into the dash design. Having a center screen (of any shape) would be hideous. The panorama screen should be easy and will look decent.
As for technical advances I haven’t seen anything from BMW that comes close to the MB.Drive Assist Pro.

Either way, it looks like the LCI should improve the front end. Not sure about the interior.


EDIT. Nevermind, I just saw that the single Neue Klasse screen in the center of the 7 series dash. That is unfortunate. No matter how much wood you put behind that screen, this will be ugly and disconnected. I think Mercedes should have installed the single screen dash of the new GLC in the facelifted S-Class but I think either will be worlds better. That said, I will reserve my opinion until I can see some proper pics.

Do you have a picture?

[SW17LS]

I'm also concerned about what the "passenger screen" will look like given that the center screen is just tacked on... for some reason I envision Lexus ES vibes which is not good:



Not sure how else they would accomplish a passenger screen given the neu klasse dash design...

Passenger screens are totally stupid IMO.

[Wolfman64]

Originally Posted by RJH52

Do you have a picture?

BMWBlog had posted a fuzzy shot a while back but also confirmed this a couple of days ago...

"The G70 is getting iDrive X, meaning a large central touchscreen and BMW’s so-called Panoramic Vision. "


Here is the pic but one can see the panoramic bar on top and the center screen to the right of a very iX3 looking steering wheel.
The icing on the cake would be if they'd use the same oddly shaped screen...

https://cdn.bmwblog.com/wp-content/u...ototype-00.jpg

[RJH52]

Originally Posted by Kolegata

Not near to stearing, all front window. Render is 95% near to real, but the grill is like on M5

Can’t stand the bland void behind the steering wheel.
My fear was this same design was coming in the new X7. Really glad I got my 26 a few weeks ago

[SW17LS]

Originally Posted by RJH52

Can’t stand the bland void behind the steering wheel.
My fear was this same design was coming in the new X7. Really glad I got my 26 a few weeks ago

Same, it always makes me think of my wife's 04 Prius:

[RJH52]

Originally Posted by SW17LS

Same, it always makes me think of my wife's 04 Prius:

Except the Prius steering wheel looks better…

[SW17LS]

Originally Posted by RJH52

Except the Prius steering wheel looks better…

Zing! lol

[BMW5and7]

Originally Posted by Wolfman64

I think your views are overly optimistic in regards to the looks on the 7 series and the S-Class 😏

We are also a customer of both brands but the 7 series is just not a good looking car and the front end is a liability.
I wish the car would look as good as the S-class which is more elegant and the facelift has made that car less generic and more stately looking as well.

There is lots to like about the 7 series and I am really curious of how BMW tries to integrate the Neue Klasse elements into the dash design. Having a center screen (of any shape) would be hideous. The panorama screen should be easy and will look decent.
As for technical advances I haven’t seen anything from BMW that comes close to the MB.Drive Assist Pro.

Either way, it looks like the LCI should improve the front end. Not sure about the interior.


EDIT. Nevermind, I just saw that the single Neue Klasse screen in the center of the 7 series dash. That is unfortunate. No matter how much wood you put behind that screen, this will be ugly and disconnected. I think Mercedes should have installed the single screen dash of the new GLC in the facelifted S-Class but I think either will be worlds better. That said, I will reserve my opinion until I can see some proper pics.

You can’t really combine personal “views” with “overly optimistic” in the same sentence. Views and opinions are exactly that (they are personal). Each of us is just one data point. Agreeing or disagreeing with a view doesn’t make it right or wrong and will not change facts or what most people think or chose. The only objective and quantified metric in the market is what the majority of buyers from the same pool would choose; especially when two cars in the same luxury segment and price range. Sales numbers are the only true quantified metric that reflect what the broader preference lies (not me, not you, not my neighbor and co-worker). Everything else is simply one opinion though neither is wrong.

Regarding the "optimistic" part, assuming you are referring to future options not current ones... for future projections, I agree that none of us truly knows how things will evolve but u are then pessimistic if am overly optimistic. My view is reasonable cause it was framed around this assumption: if BMW continues delivering the 7 the same way it currently does (refined interior build, great looking car that will attract more buyers than other modes, non-creaky interiors, and great technology all around) then the trend we are already seeing will likely continue. Majority of (and more) people will buy over the other luxury options just like now. Whether one personally likes the design or not becomes somewhat secondary if the car is already proving to be highly desirable among most buyers. Will the new interior be not as good? Maybe and I haven't seen it fully, and I don't know if I care that much honestly as am not willing or thinking to trade my current daily for anything anytime soon.

Meanwhile to your point, mbenz made a terrible decision with the current S interior by adopting elements from the EQS... and to be clear, am just sharing with you my personal onion since you poked my post, but am not interested in hearing what you think of my opinion or whether u agree or not. That design direction hasn’t been praised either by most journalists. Personally, I find both the current large tablet-style dash and the EQS-like all screen interior to be a very poor design approaches. The GLC cabin you mentioned i better, but not great either. Mbenz has no great interiors now in their new lineup for a luxury sedan. They have an awesome interior for the GLS, C and E-class of the world, not the S. This is EXACTLY why I said that BMW actually has room to make mistakes now, because the competitor came up with a new facelift that is still just as bad as the previous one that failed to compete with the 7 as far as market metrics.

In any case am not that anxious/excited to know what's coming. The peace of mind of driving a car that i don't need to ever touch or work on, and I don't need to track its creaks like a cheap old Honda interior, yet with combined every tech I want in a car, is invaluable to me. For the first time in nearly a decade, I’m not spending my weekends constantly looking at the next car or setting alerts for upcoming models. Normally my ownership cycle is about 6-9 months before I start looking for something new. This time is different.. I am already settled and no looking at all at anything. I know that the S is officially out of my interest after the facelift, but at least the 7 still has a chance, and if not, I have the perfect product for me in hand already. I mostly care about 3 things in a car (but not exclusively): refinement/creaks, drivetrain smoothness, and technology. The compition failed miserably on all 3 so far, and my current 7 is still delivering 10/10 on all 3. So am good. I am already tired of fixing and tracking creaks of one Mbenz SUV in my garage now and even manually adding wireless carplay to a 2023 luxury SUV; it's actually embarrassing for the brand that I even have to bend my knees every so often under the seats looking after their cheap plastic parts. Never had this issue in any of my BMWs ever... ever!

[JK479]

Originally Posted by Kolegata

Amazing car. Most beautiful BMW ever. More agressive front, Split headlights, 400 colors, 90 leather options, stearing like IX3, panoramic display, center display like IX3, passanger display. 740i start production july 2026, 750e and 740d from december, spring 2027 M760 V8 without charging for Europe too. No buttons on center console, amazing materials, buy buy S class forever. I760 with 115kw battery.

Can I ask why you said 400 colors? Do you mean individual?

[Kolegata]

With individual colors total 400. Including two tone. Also you can choose stich color on your leather choice. Im with G70 now and can say its completely new car. Im in love, its so agressive for this size…..

[Wolfman64]

Originally Posted by BMW5and7

You can’t really combine personal “views” with “overly optimistic” in the same sentence. Views and opinions are exactly that (they are personal). Each of us is just one data point. Agreeing or disagreeing with a view doesn’t make it right or wrong and will not change facts or what most people think or chose. The only objective and quantified metric in the market is what the majority of buyers from the same pool would choose; especially when two cars in the same luxury segment and price range. Sales numbers are the only true quantified metric that reflect what the broader preference lies (not me, not you, not my neighbor and co-worker). Everything else is simply one opinion though neither is wrong.

Regarding the "optimistic" part, assuming you are referring to future options not current ones... for future projections, I agree that none of us truly knows how things will evolve but u are then pessimistic if am overly optimistic. My view is reasonable cause it was framed around this assumption: if BMW continues delivering the 7 the same way it currently does (refined interior build, great looking car that will attract more buyers than other modes, non-creaky interiors, and great technology all around) then the trend we are already seeing will likely continue. Majority of (and more) people will buy over the other luxury options just like now. Whether one personally likes the design or not becomes somewhat secondary if the car is already proving to be highly desirable among most buyers. Will the new interior be not as good? Maybe and I haven't seen it fully, and I don't know if I care that much honestly as am not willing or thinking to trade my current daily for anything anytime soon.

Meanwhile to your point, mbenz made a terrible decision with the current S interior by adopting elements from the EQS... and to be clear, am just sharing with you my personal onion since you poked my post, but am not interested in hearing what you think of my opinion or whether u agree or not. That design direction hasn’t been praised either by most journalists. Personally, I find both the current large tablet-style dash and the EQS-like all screen interior to be a very poor design approaches. The GLC cabin you mentioned i better, but not great either. Mbenz has no great interiors now in their new lineup for a luxury sedan. They have an awesome interior for the GLS, C and E-class of the world, not the S. This is EXACTLY why I said that BMW actually has room to make mistakes now, because the competitor came up with a new facelift that is still just as bad as the previous one that failed to compete with the 7 as far as market metrics.

In any case am not that anxious/excited to know what's coming. The peace of mind of driving a car that i don't need to ever touch or work on, and I don't need to track its creaks like a cheap old Honda interior, yet with combined every tech I want in a car, is invaluable to me. For the first time in nearly a decade, I’m not spending my weekends constantly looking at the next car or setting alerts for upcoming models. Normally my ownership cycle is about 6-9 months before I start looking for something new. This time is different.. I am already settled and no looking at all at anything. I know that the S is officially out of my interest after the facelift, but at least the 7 still has a chance, and if not, I have the perfect product for me in hand already. I mostly care about 3 things in a car (but not exclusively): refinement/creaks, drivetrain smoothness, and technology. The compition failed miserably on all 3 so far, and my current 7 is still delivering 10/10 on all 3. So am good. I am already tired of fixing and tracking creaks of one Mbenz SUV in my garage now and even manually adding wireless carplay to a 2023 luxury SUV; it's actually embarrassing for the brand that I even have to bend my knees every so often under the seats looking after their cheap plastic parts. Never had this issue in any of my BMWs ever... ever!

This was my approach of being non-controversial about your narrative. I appreciate that you like the car and the looks even though our views on that car differ.

I personally find the 7 and S-Class technically quite comparable and it will be interesting to see how both the LCI and facelift models stack up. Sure don't see gaps in technology.
The 7 has more luxury elements that MB has decided not to include into the facelift, such as the electric doors and perhaps the rear set theatrics. Strangely enough they have exactly included those in the god awful new VLE which sports the same 8k screen with yet better rear seats.

I have had no experience with the new iDrive X but have used the MB.OS which is better than the ID8.5 we have.

My primary interest is in the LCI as it will shed light on all upcoming LCI models (5, X5, X7) and to me this is starting to look a whole lot worse than expected with that center screen. MB's approach is a gold standard compared to that crap.
I do like the panoramic screen which feels very natural in comparison.

That said we don't change cars as often as you, but are on a roughly 18 months cycle so these interior changes are meaningful decision drivers...

[BMW5and7]

Originally Posted by Wolfman64

This was my approach of being non-controversial about your narrative. I appreciate that you like the car and the looks even though our views on that car differ.

I personally find the 7 and S-Class technically quite comparable and it will be interesting to see how both the LCI and facelift models stack up. Sure don't see gaps in technology.
The 7 has more luxury elements that MB has decided not to include into the facelift, such as the electric doors and perhaps the rear set theatrics. Strangely enough they have exactly included those in the god awful new VLE which sports the same 8k screen with yet better rear seats.

I have had no experience with the new iDrive X but have used the MB.OS which is better than the ID8.5 we have.

Makes sense, and I can say now that we are on the same page.

I also saw the VLE, and first I thought was my i7 rear seat theatre/entertainment screen. It was interesting how similar the approach is, but it's a screen, there isn't many other ways to put a proper theater screen in a car.
MB.OS can be better ID8.5 (I don't know for sure but I wouldn't be surprised if true; it should be). I'll note that iD-X is sooo much better than ID8.5 too. Personally, the ix3 demos that I saw were mind blowing on the implementation side, and that's just the ix3.

[JK479]

Originally Posted by Kolegata

With individual colors total 400. Including two tone. Also you can choose stich color on your leather choice. Im with G70 now and can say its completely new car. Im in love, its so agressive for this size…..

Fascinating- thanks for insight. Would you say the LcI headlights look more like the Rolls? Meaning the DRL is flatter and the headlights actually are more hidden?

[Kolegata]

DRL is flatter, single head light little bit hidden on M face, like rols………i have never seen so agressive rols :-)

[Wolfman64]

Btw, I agree that BMW has a better handle on quality. At the same time I finally see MB starting to address that area more.

That said, both companies driving an aggressive new model rollout while having to deal with tariffs and a low Dollar. Hope that the cost cutting doesn't cheapen the options/material choices too much...

[N74B66TU2]

I’ve been a 7 series driver since the E65, having owned multiple of the same generation . Aside from my E66, the G70 is my favorite generation. I currently drive a 25’ 760xi and a 24’ i7 xDrive60. I’m so excited for the refresh. I’m mostly disappointed about the implementation of iDrive x as I prefer a traditional gauge set up. I was hoping for a revised version of ID9 with less pay walls including panorama vision as I don’t care for heads up. However I’ll get used to it