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      09-15-2019, 07:49 AM   #23
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American Solders are different than chinese robots.
This. It cannot be overstated.
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American Solders are different than chinese robots.


Robots like this tank driver?
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Robots like this tank driver?
No offense but you don't know what it means to be an American and probably don't know what it means to be an American Serviceman.

It's unthinkable.
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No offense but you don't know what it means to be an American and probably don't know what it means to be an American Serviceman.

It's unthinkable.
You are correct
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Comparing a Chinese soldier who is likely a peasant raised under an authoritarian regime to an American serviceman does seem silly. Aren't a large number of service people from the mid-west and south? You really think the door kickers are going to turn their weapons on fellow citizens because President AOC orders it?
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      09-15-2019, 12:28 PM   #28
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Do you mean Robert Francis O'Rourke?

This whole Beto shit is one of the worst forms of pandering I have seen, trying to appeal to Spanish speaking voters, when he is as white bread as they come.
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Robots like this tank driver?
I found the operator of that tank to be as much of a hero as the fellow that stood in front of the tank. The operator would not do the unthinkable.
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Also, these statements by Robert Francis O'Rourke are part of a coordinated strategy to make other forms of gun control (UBCs, etc...) seem less extreme. He can make these outrageous claims, knowing that he has no chance to win the primary, and then, when the primary is done, and the chosen one is anointed, I mean, the voters make their choice, the chosen one can then pretend to swing to the middle by claiming that he/she is not an extremist like ol' Robert Francis, but just wants some 'common sense' gun control laws, thereby fooling the middle of the ground voters into voting Democrat rather than Republican.

It's, sadly, a pretty good strategy that seems to be working, judging by the number of people that are taking Robert Francis's statements at face value.
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O'Rourke is done as a Senator
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O'Rourke is done as a Senator
Yep. DOA
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Yup... The fork came out clean. He can now go back to living the high life with his wealthy wife.
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Everyone gets all bent out of shape on this, but fail to see the reality of the situation.

Bottom line - in the long run, guns will eventually be banned in the United States. The left is just too good at the long game. What isn’t going to happen, minus some sort of cataclysmic event, is a scenario that involves gun-wielding government agents forcibly canvassing American homes in search of illegal weapons.

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"Even O’Rourke himself admitted as much, stating that he has “confidence” in “the people of this country” to follow the law.

“Much like we don’t go door-to-door to enforce almost any law in the United States – in fact, I don’t think we do that for any law in the United States – this is not something that we would do. Others have said, you know, this is something we would fear if there were a mandatory buyback program. No, we expect people to follow the law. That’s certainly what I believe will happen.”

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Make no mistake, the totalitarian state WILL happen, if Robert Frances and his ilk get their way, but it won’t happen with jackboots kicking in doors, at least not at first and not in significant enough numbers to overly alarm the rest of a sleeping populace. No, it will happen with the so-called “rule of law,” as law after law is passed to “stop” a media manufactured problem (statistics-wise) that can never entirely be stopped, yet will be emphasized nonstop every time it happens anywhere in America until they get what they want.

And even assuming you “defy” a law they’ve passed – which, granted, many currently do in heavy gun-controlled blue states – what long-term purpose will that serve? They may not physically have possession of your AR-15, or your handgun, or your scoped 30-06 semi-auto deer rifle, but what good are weapons when you’ll be prosecuted as a criminal for using them? People like Beto O’Rourke and their leftist cohorts may be evil, but they aren’t stupid. They know this, and so they can say they won’t go “door-to-door” with a straight face and a smarmy “I’m a reasonable person” grin, knowing full well the long-term ramifications.

Like the frog in boiling water, the totalitarian state will happen when leftists are able to use the law to make de-facto criminals out of everyone they hate. Then, whether the proverbial jackboots come to your home and beat down your door now or later, whether they arrest you in a grocery store parking lot or sleeping in your bed, whether they prosecute you for using an “illegal” weapon to defend yourself against a home invader or hunting for food, whether they take your guns via “voluntary” buyback because you’ve got a family and can’t afford to risk going to prison, or from your cold, dead hands, they’ll know they’ve won. Because they’re eventually going to get your guns, one way or another.

In other words, when it comes to gun legislation or really anything else, don’t ever cede one lousy inch to evil, godless leftists.
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Bottom line - in the long run, guns will eventually be banned in the United States. The left is just too good at the long game.
This attitude, while entirely plausible, can be expanded to also include all sorts of governmental oppression. I see it no different than banning internal combustion engines, or eating meat. That's why we need to strongly protect our freedom by working to keep the radical leftists out of power at every level of government. We are in control of our own destiny; we just have to take ownership of it instead of being fatalistic. Stay strong.

BTW... This message isn't only directed towards Americans.
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Everyone gets all bent out of shape on this, but fail to see the reality of the situation. Bottom line - in the long run, guns will eventually be banned in the United States.
I see no plausible way for this to happen in the next few decades. You will have to tell me how it can possibly happen.

And for me its 100% that it will not affect me.

BY the way, the PA. constitution says:
§ 21. Right to bear arms.
The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.

History has shown that beginning in the 80's..it was difficult to impossible for a citizen to to carry concealed was limited. Since then all but a few States have "Shall Issue" policies. And slowly but surely the trend to "shall issue" is expanding.

You will never see Roe V Wade overturned and likewise the 2nd Amendment will do what was intended.

I think your concerns are ill-founded.
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This attitude, while entirely plausible, can be expanded to also include all sorts of governmental oppression. I see it no different than banning internal combustion engines, or eating meat. That's why we need to strongly protect our freedom by working to keep the radical leftists out of power at every level of government. We are in control of our own destiny; we just have to take ownership of it instead of being fatalistic. Stay strong.

BTW... This message isn't only directed towards Americans.
I agree - and I think you may have failed to catch my last sentence at the end of the comment. See below:

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In other words, when it comes to gun legislation or really anything else, don’t ever cede one lousy inch to evil, godless leftists.
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I see no plausible way for this to happen in the next few decades. You will have to tell me how it can possibly happen.

And for me its 100% that it will not affect me.

BY the way, the PA. constitution says:
§ 21. Right to bear arms.
The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.

History has shown that beginning in the 80's..it was difficult to impossible for a citizen to to carry concealed was limited. Since then all but a few States have "Shall Issue" policies. And slowly but surely the trend to "shall issue" is expanding.

You will never see Roe V Wade overturned and likewise the 2nd Amendment will do what was intended.

I think your concerns are ill-founded.
I see a very easy way.

1) Activist judges create prima facie regarding 2A language and allow more stringent gun laws.

2) Government makes owning some or all guns illegal.

3) I would venture to say about 40-50% of anyone who owned a gun would immediately forfeit them at that time. As much as it pains me to say it, I would probably be one of them. I can't risk going to jail and losing my wife and child.

4) Those who keep the guns will be afraid to use them. Because as soon as the gun is used in self defense, the gun owner is promptly arrested for the illegal firearm.

5) If scared to use the gun, the point of the gun becomes mute.

6) Over the course of a generation, guns dwindle out of the landscape for law abiding gun owners.

This is a horrible projection, but one that is likely to become reality in the next 50 to 100 years if these leftists ever get into power.
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my bad. oh and one more thing. most gun shops won't even show you a gun unless you produce your PAL.
What is a PAL?

We just fill out a 4473, then when approved we are allowed to purchased or not if we choose.

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What is a PAL?

We just fill out a 4473, then when approved we are allowed to purchased or not if we choose.

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Not in Canada......Purchase Acquisition Licence if you want a handgun or other restricted firearm such as an AR with 16" barrel then you need another licence the RPAL.
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1) Activist judges create prima facie regarding 2A language and allow more stringent gun laws.
Supreme court over rules. Its been tried multiple times in the last few years on lower court levels. It goes nowhere.

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2) Government makes owning some or all guns illegal.
Nope. AR's are ArmaLite guns. Being made since the 50's they are just scary looking semi-rifles. Never happen.

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3) I would venture to say about 40-50% of anyone who owned a gun would immediately forfeit them at that time. As much as it pains me to say it, I would probably be one of them. I can't risk going to jail and losing my wife and child.
Never get that far.see 1 & 2 above.


[auote]4) Those who keep the guns will be afraid to use them. Because as soon as the gun is used in self defense, the gun owner is promptly arrested for the illegal firearm. [/quote]
See 1& 2 above

[/quote]5) If scared to use the gun, the point of the gun becomes mute. [/quote]
see 1 & 2 above

[/quote]6) Over the course of a generation, guns dwindle out of the landscape for law abiding gun owners.[/quote]
You guessed it..1 & 2 above


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This is a horrible projection, but one that is likely to become reality in the next 50 to 100 years if these leftists ever get into power.
If my a aunt had a penis whe would be my uncle.

This hand ringing has been going on on gun boards for 4 years. Since then most States are "Shall Issue"
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Believe me if these socialist parasites get their way, they will ban guns.
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