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PPF I'm sure is a $2,400 option...
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A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."
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The lead guy for the Supra already said if they had designed, tested, and built their own powertrain, instead of the 6 starting in the mid-50s, it would have started $90k+ |
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Because no one buys Z4s. The R&D costs barely justify making it. It's not only BMW's fault for making them be very average for most of their run. The demand for sports cars continues to dry up. People want tanks. I just looked up the numbers for the 911. It appears that the number of units sold in 2022 will be lower than in 2005. A negative growth segment isn't where you want to be, unfortunately.
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Not to mention, the average enthusiast can't afford a $100k vehicle. I know guys with Supra's that make less than I do and far less than my fiance and I combined.......so the younger guys are willing to eschew financial responsibility to push to the max what they can afford. A $60k car they can, $100k they can't. |
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They could have done it for the price of a GTR, which would be the main competitor. No AWD, but they could have evolved the engine to support 1200+hp with bolt-ons, but they chose not to. You're one person...on a BMW board...where most guys are only here transiently because they can't quite afford that Porsche. And if I'm right, you're one of them. |
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I still don't see why BMW teamed with Toyota on the current generation Z4. |
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I owned what IMO is the best one; the E85 Z4M. I've also driven a Z3 (forget which, non-M), E85 3.0si, and E89 sDrive 30i, although not for long. The Z4M is the best of that group and probably my favorite BMW of all time, but IMO 75% of the appeal of that car is the S54 with the top down. The gearbox is not good into 2nd and the chassis feels crude where it just plows until it snaps or you learn to kick it early and steer with throttle. I had a 997.1 C2S loaner for a day while I had the Z4M and I was blown away with how much better the Porsche chassis and steering were. Same thing when I test drove a 987.2 Cayman. As far as BMW and Toyota, I don't think BMW teamed up with Toyota at all really. Pretty sure the relationship was closer to BMW receiving a check from Toyota for the rights to sell a Z4 coupe as a Supra. Without that money and Supra name to move units, who knows if the Z4 gets axed or not. The 911 moved up in price, but I'm pretty confident if you look at industry numbers as a whole you will see declining sports car sales. |
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If you think having a Mustang EV is bad, how about GM’s decision to make the Corvette a brand/product line. Based on the articles, starting in 2025 there will be a Corvette EV, a 4 door sedan, and an SUV. But it will have the “essence of Corvette”.
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Nope, I can't afford Boxster S optioned the way I would want it. |
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And I wouldn't own the car optioned any possible way. |
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