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      03-12-2024, 04:06 AM   #1
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The sensitivity of the new professional assistance driving package is way too sensitive. This package is supposed to let you take your hands off the steering wheel, and it will continue to drive itself. However, I can't even take a drink without getting the distracted driver warning. It used to be much less sensitive, and now it has gone to the extreme.
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It doesn’t like when you pick your nose either! And don’t even try to yawn.
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The sensitivity of the new professional assistance driving package is way too sensitive. This package is supposed to let you take your hands off the steering wheel, and it will continue to drive itself. However, I can't even take a drink without getting the distracted driver warning. It used to be much less sensitive, and now it has gone to the extreme.
can't the sensitivity be changed? i'm not sure about your setup in the US, but in the menue there is a setting for sensitivity...
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It doesn’t like when you pick your nose either! And don’t even try to yawn.
We shouldn't blame the car. MOST of us would be sensitive when (or even disgusted if) somebody picked their noses or yawned in front of us, right?

But seriously, BMW certainly wants to err on the side of caution and not be blamed for an accident due to inattentiveness. But at some point the level of restriction can certainly negate the featured convenience.
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I can't get it to work right either. I think the steering wheel top is blocking the camera that is used to see your eyes to make sure you aren't distracted. It just beeps and then it turns off. It is more relaxing to use regular distance CC. If there is an adjustment, I can't find it.
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I can't get it to work right either. I think the steering wheel top is blocking the camera that is used to see your eyes to make sure you aren't distracted. It just beeps and then it turns off. It is more relaxing to use regular distance CC. If there is an adjustment, I can't find it.
You need to be able to clearly see the black rectangular area at the top the instrument cluster. That’s where the camera Is located.
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      03-17-2024, 07:48 PM   #7
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You need to be able to clearly see the black rectangular area at the top the instrument cluster. That’s where the camera Is located.
There are three camera. That's one and there is also one on either side of the screen. You can see them all when you have your camera on it.
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There are three camera. That's one and there is also one on either side of the screen. You can see them all when you have your camera on it.
The camera is only in the middle.
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      03-17-2024, 09:05 PM   #9
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You need to be able to clearly see the black rectangular area at the top the instrument cluster. That’s where the camera Is located.
I'm going to have to readjust my steering wheel position - but I will wait until after the active lane change update.
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The camera is only in the middle.
What do the ones on the side do? You can see one in this pic on the left.
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      03-18-2024, 10:46 AM   #11
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I can't get it to work right either. I think the steering wheel top is blocking the camera that is used to see your eyes to make sure you aren't distracted. It just beeps and then it turns off. It is more relaxing to use regular distance CC. If there is an adjustment, I can't find it.
Since yours "beeps and then [turns off]," I wonder if you also failed to remove the plastic peel-away film over your instrument cluster which actually DOES block the camera enough to render hands-free driving inoperable. For the first week I had my i7, hands-free driving "worked" only for seconds until I realized there existed that peel-away film on the instrument cluster and removed it. DOH! IMMMEDIATELY after I did, it worked perfectly allowing me to drive unlimited hands-free miles since.

Otherwise, yes, one can only look away for maybe 1.5 to 2 seconds before the distracted driver warning occurs. It would be a mistake to make a length-of-time setting adjustable. Folks would probably set it to 4-5 seconds resulting in a sizeable increase in accidents and BMW would find themselves defendants in multiple lawsuits. The length of time right now DOES feel a bit stingy, but honestly, it's probably at or near optimal.
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What do the ones on the side do? You can see one in this pic on the left.
Not cameras. You can watch any videos about the driver camera system and some of them even show what the camera sees and how it tracks your eyes and facial structure to know which direction you are looking in. On iDrive 7 cars the Driver Camera System was in the same place and was the only additional part on the instrument cluster installed for Driver Assistant Professional. They are likely just infrared lights to illuminate your face at night. You can see these same lights on the gesture control camera used to illuminate the area where you would use gesture controls.
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Thanks Dromike I’ll look for the film when I get back to it tomorrow.
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Thanks Dromike I’ll look for the film when I get back to it tomorrow.
The film is off. I believe it is my driving position via a vis the camera. I’ll have to do some experimenting.
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The film is off. I believe it is my driving position via a vis the camera. I’ll have to do some experimenting.
Hmm, the camera at the top of the instrument cluster is hard to obliterate with the steering wheel; and once I removed the film, all worked like magic. If you're not getting, or have never received, the full experience of hands-free freeway/highway driving after that -- a big reason I paid the premium price -- you should take it in on warranty.
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Hmm, the camera at the top of the instrument cluster is hard to obliterate with the steering wheel; and once I removed the film, all worked like magic. If you're not getting, or have never received, the full experience of hands-free freeway/highway driving after that -- a big reason I paid the premium price -- you should take it in on warranty.
Its going in April 11. I'm still 1000 miles from home and I want my home dealer to be the one to look at it.
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Not cameras. You can watch any videos about the driver camera system and some of them even show what the camera sees and how it tracks your eyes and facial structure to know which direction you are looking in. On iDrive 7 cars the Driver Camera System was in the same place and was the only additional part on the instrument cluster installed for Driver Assistant Professional. They are likely just infrared lights to illuminate your face at night. You can see these same lights on the gesture control camera used to illuminate the area where you would use gesture controls.
You're correct. They're infrared cameras for night
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We shouldn't blame the car. MOST of us would be sensitive when (or even disgusted if) somebody picked their noses or yawned in front of us, right?

But seriously, BMW certainly wants to err on the side of caution and not be blamed for an accident due to inattentiveness. But at some point the level of restriction can certainly negate the featured convenience.
Great intellectual input! ✨
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I use mine all the time and am still wowed by it. I do feel a little frozen or robotic staring ahead worrying I’ll piss it off if not compliant but maybe it’ll get a software update to loosen the parameters soon.
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