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Beyond this, has anyone thought what else these devices are doing on your network? I doubt anyone has spent anytime throwing on a packet sniffer to see what is happening on their network with these devices. I have had this very situation happen to me. DirecTV to be exact. What triggered my indepth investigation was a network printer I was using on my home network. Xerox Phaser 8560MFP/D to be exact. These printers use solid stick ink to print and every time the printer wakes up from sleep mode ink is wasted as the heater elements fire up to precondition the ink sticks for printing. These ink sticks are not cheap. So imagine my irritation when this printer was being woken up from sleep mode every 15 minutes. No one was sending print jobs or accessing the printer during these times. I threw a packet sniffer on and capture some data. To my surprise, the offending IP was a DirecTV DVR hitting my printer. And reading through the packet payload, I was seeing multiple HTTP GET queries pulling stats off of my printer about the web server version and such. So the big questions are why is a DirecTV DVR probing my network and why is it collecting data on specific devices? Since finding out this revelation, all of my DirecTV DVRs have been isolated/walled off from the rest of my network via VLAN and firewall segregation. And then there's that hacker element. If you think your data is safe, you have something coming to you. Imagine some hack that grabs all this data and gets sold to the criminal underworld. Not only will they most likely have some geolocation of where your home is, they'll have a large historical data set of when people are most likely home, and a good guess as to whether your home is worth "investigating" based on power consumption usage. |
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A huge fan of the Ecobee! Had it in our previous house and after the 1 year service agreement to not modify our builders thermostat, I will wiring in the latest from Ecobee! I prefer it's interface over the Nest. Tons of excellent reviews.
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07-13-2018, 05:43 PM | #26 |
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I got this one and I like it. I was not looking for anything fancy. You can control it from your phone and set up programming. Has weather info and stuff.
https://yourhome.honeywell.com/en/pr...mostat-rth9580 |
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I have 2 Lennox iComforts to go with 2 Lennox a/c's in our primary residence. I like them just fine but presume they only work with Lennox HVACs.
We put a deposit on a vacation condo recently and it is supposed to come with a Nest thermostat.
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+1 for the Nest. Never had an issue with mine.
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We have used a Honeywell WiFi thermostat for the past 5 years and have been very pleased. It was like $129 and does everything a Nest does. I don't remember the model but there were many models available on Amazon at the time of the purchase. You could easily have paid over $300 for a few Honeywell models but this has work flawlessly so far. Full disclosure we do have the NEST fire/Co2 detector.
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Does that include you? Sorry you teed it up so well. Have a great weekend.
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If I may veer slightly off topic, I'm super happy that I finally found a high-voltage WiFi thermostat solution for my electric radiant heat.
https://shop-us.getmysa.com Tip: don't be a tool and use the rectangular goof plate with a nest thermostat. You'd be amazed how many installers use them even in new construction. Too many people apparently think that's a required part. .
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In response to the original topic, I'd suggest considering a thermostat solution that communicates with either your smart home capable alarm system, or your smart home control system (like Control4, Savant, or URC's Total Control). This would enable your HVAC settings to potentially become part of a scene. A popular example would be to have your HVAC system adjust itself when you enable Arm Away on your security system. My personal Alarm.com service provides geo location so you could have the alarm notice you enter a geo fence and tell your thermostat you're on your way home autonomously. I love the geo fence feature for triggering my Away lighting scene so I'm always sure all my lights are off when nobody is home.
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Don't bother wasting extra money on a Nest, etc. OP. Your needs are basic and the Honeywell will do exactly what you want it to without any unnecessary bells and whistles. This if you have a basic heating/cooling system: https://smile.amazon.com/Honeywell-P...honeywell+wifi This if you have a dual stage heatpump, etc. https://smile.amazon.com/Honeywell-R...honeywell+wifi |
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I'm going to go with a Honeywell. I'll wait till Prime days to see if there is a sale
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My only reservation is that if someone hacks it, and sees that your thermostats have been on "Eco" for 3 days, they might presume you're away and think it's a good time to rob your place.
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Would thieves specializing in hacking nest thermostats be randomly trolling in search of thermostats in Eco mode for an extended period of time? When they find these systems, I guess they would begin prospecting the homes for potential theft? Perhaps it would work the other way... Thieves prospecting a home they want to break into would hack into the nest thermostats for confirmation that the HVAC system is in Eco mode, thus indicating nobody is home?
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I'm not talking them hacking the individual thermostats, I'm talking able them hack "home" where all Nests report back to. |
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