Slower gas pumps to make EV's more attractive

[G30M]

Originally Posted by Holset

Look at this retarded idea! 😂

https://electrek.co/2025/10/11/hear-...NfxPrBmbPIsTfQ

it's like telling Usain Bolt to run slower so that I get a chance to win Olympic Gold medal

what do they call it in USA ... DEI or something

[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by jaffles

It seems for a while the anti EV crowd would promote an EV fire down hear. Often it was not all that correct but served its purpose. What is not reported at all is just how many ICE cars catch fire. My dad was in the fire brigade and its 3 or 4 a week with a 2 million population, but that was before EVs. Have to admit part of turning our garage into bedrooms was I don't want an EV parked inside the house. However just as big a part is cars no longer rust like they once did, and using bricks and mortar to house a car is an expansive use of roof space when it can house a human. Really the EV outside is just a bonus.

I understand good quality house batteries can have up to 7 stages of thermal management; monitoring chemistry, temperature, ventilation and some with fire suppression before its anywhere near catching fire. Think China has made it mandatory for EV manufactures no fires by 2026 or your out of business.

What's really quite amusing in my extended family, the anti renewables have solar all over their roof, added batteries and buying EVs. Not because they support any of it. Just the grid has offered the promise of making money from selling energy. Our governance has offered rebaits for people to install renewables so the ones chasing the carrot appear happy o overlook their anti stance. Funny ol world.

What really burns up a lot here are all the cheaper e mobility products. E brikes, e scooters, etc. that's become a fairly common thing where a house burns to the ground totally because of a fire sparked by some Amazon electric scooter that a kid had.

[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by RM7

Nuclear tech requires a ton of money, infrastructure and support. It sucks a ton of money due to that and may not offset the energy it makes. It is absolutely not the right solution in many situations. In others, it may be the best viable option, but it's far from a sure shot. Due to the implications, it has to operate in a zero-failure mode and that takes tons of regulation and money. Think like aviation...but on steroids. Why does an aircraft part cost 20x times what an automobile one does, for what seems like the same thing? The ability to control quality, be accountable for quality and find out what is affected when there's an actual issue, the traceability, and so on. The world is pretty complex.

Sure, but the same can be said for all power generation and critical infrastructure.

The other thing is nuclear failure is not the same as what people think it is because they watched Chernobyl on HBO. That was a mismanaged, outdated plant when it failed 40 years ago (typical of all communist societies), and has no relation to what a modern nuclear plant operates like.

In the end this irrational fear of nuclear, and foolish belief that renewables powered by Chinese coal fueled manufacturing, only hurts the western world. But we are too callous and too full of ourselves to see it.

[RM7]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

Sure, but the same can be said for all power generation and critical infrastructure.

The other thing is nuclear failure is not the same as what people think it is because they watched Chernobyl on HBO. That was a mismanaged, outdated plant when it failed 40 years ago (typical of all communist societies), and has no relation to what a modern nuclear plant operates like.

In the end this irrational fear of nuclear, and foolish belief that renewables powered by Chinese coal fueled manufacturing, only hurts the western world. But we are too callous and too full of ourselves to see it.

No, it can't. If a coal power station blows up, it doesn't contaminate the area with radiation for the next 2000 years. Lots of infrastructure can fail without the same implications.

And to have nuclear operate at the level where it can't fail, it takes all that money and regulation and upkeep.

[x622]

Originally Posted by RM7

No, it can't. If a coal power station blows up, it doesn't contaminate the area with radiation for the next 2000 years. Lots of infrastructure can fail without the same implications.

And to have nuclear operate at the level where it can't fail, it takes all that money and regulation and upkeep.

Please go read up on gen 2 and 3 nuclear reactors.

Thanks.

[Efthreeoh]

Funny how the general consensus is that EV battery, solar photovoltaic generation, and wind turbine generation will all advance in performance and cost reduction, yet nuclear energy won't or can't.

[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Funny how the general consensus is that EV battery, solar photovoltaic generation, and wind turbine generation will all advance in performance and cost reduction, yet nuclear energy won't or can't.

Yep. People are told what to believe by the big money. And they follow it blindly.

[Altamate]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukush...clear_accident

I’m fine with nuclear power, but we haven’t sorted everything out yet.

[jaffles]

Originally Posted by Altamate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukush...clear_accident

I’m fine with nuclear power, but we haven’t sorted everything out yet.

bit like EVs haha

I ok with electric but I can't do BMWs darth vader jaw and bloated kidneys on steroids.

[M3Sleeper]

I love how they have the shot of Gavin N in the picture then the next picture is some soy boy weakling charging his EV. They go hand in hand together

[M3Sleeper]

Originally Posted by ASAP

Isn't it interesting that the man who road the coat tails of all this is now the richest man in the world due to almost entirely public funding?

He got tax credits from CA to build his business... then US/EV tax credits and then bounced from CA to avoid paying taxes lol... oh and in the meantime he got into the govt and got funding for his other companies from the govt... If there is ever a fleece of the taxpayer... this one is certainly towards the top lol... oh and by the way, said man and his buddies all fly private gulfstream jets all over.

Do you understand why he was able to get tax credits? Because being there he was paying far more taxes than not being there.

Tax credits are only given when there is a return to be had for the government in the future...whether that be state or local. A benefit on the flipside in all cases...a motivation.

Elon has paid MORE than his fair share of taxes. Let the man live

[Holset]

Originally Posted by G30M

it's like telling Usain Bolt to run slower so that I get a chance to win Olympic Gold medal

what do they call it in USA ... DEI or something

Yes haha!

[x622]

Originally Posted by Altamate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukush...clear_accident

I’m fine with nuclear power, but we haven’t sorted everything out yet.

This was a Gen 1 nuclear plant that was supposed to be decommissioned a long time ago but wasn't because the baseload power was just too important for the grid.

Again, please go read on gen 2 and 3 reactor designs.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Altamate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukush...clear_accident

I’m fine with nuclear power, but we haven’t sorted everything out yet.

Well, some dumbass built the plant on the convergence of three fault lines.

Just saying.

[gonzo]

I'm no Musk fanboy but he has done more emergency SOS situations, for FREE, than all the other b'naires combined. Mr. Potato Head just leaving those astronauts up there was just peachy. Worse than worthless.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by x622

This was a Gen 1 nuclear plant that was supposed to be decommissioned a long time ago but wasn't because the baseload power was just too important for the grid.

Again, please go read on gen 2 and 3 reactor designs.

IIRC, the second issue was the power company did not replace the sea walls when they were compromised some decade(s) earlier. When the tidal waves came ashore they inundated the backup power generators that powered the emergency cooling systems.

Again, dumbassery.

[x622]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

IIRC, the second issue was the power company did not replace the sea walls when they were compromised some decade(s) earlier. When the tidal waves came ashore they inundated the backup power generators that powered the emergency cooling systems.

Again, dumbassery.

Yes, correct. It's stupidity again and again. New reactor designs are orders of magnitude safer and their failure mode isn't a meltdown but of course the lack of education (as clearly displayed in this thread) still has public perception warped.

We have the means for clean baseload power, but of course we have to play stupid games.

[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by x622

Yes, correct. It's stupidity again and again. New reactor designs are orders of magnitude safer and their failure mode isn't a meltdown but of course the lack of education (as clearly displayed in this thread) still has public perception warped.

We have the means for clean baseload power, but of course we have to play stupid games.

The irony is those people would likely speak highly of themselves as educated.

[Ugly Kar]

GM EV's not doing so well.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gm-cu...160107070.html

[Phillies8008]

Originally Posted by Ugly Kar

GM EV's not doing so well.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gm-cu...160107070.html

Maybe they need CarPlay after all...

I'm not saying that's the entire problem, but I am saying that it can't help. My Dad bought a Honda Prologue recently and even though he knows it's essentially the same car, he flat-out refused to even look at the Blazer because of the lack of CarPlay.

Mary Barra, Super Genius™. Or MBA Idiot™. You choose.

[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by Phillies8008

Maybe they need CarPlay after all...

I'm not saying that's the entire problem, but I am saying that it can't help. My Dad bought a Honda Prologue recently and even though he knows it's essentially the same car, he flat-out refused to even look at the Blazer because of the lack of CarPlay.

Mary Barra, Super Genius™. Or MBA Idiot™. You choose.

She's an idiot but not because of the car play stuff.

Reality is, GM way over estimated the EV market, moreso than most of the automakers who also did. Silverado EV is a prime example, it's a neat truck but WAYYYY too expensive.

[gonzo]

Heard an awesome joke.

Bill Gates.