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      11-08-2025, 01:53 PM   #1
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Exclamation GTD vs ZR1 vs GT3-RS [The Best Car Video of 2025]

I highly recommend watching this on a TV or at the least, a 27in+ monitor with some sort of upgrade speakers or soundbar. Definitely NOT your phone. For me, my 85in Sony Bravía took this visual, experience to another level! The way this video was shot and edited from drone and in-car is amazingly entertaining.

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Say what you want about the #GTD... It is overpriced, too heavy, blah, blah, blah. Based on these actual "Race Car Drivers and actual Experts" opinion, it is a highly desirable car. Huge props to FORD for building such a Track Worthy and Daily Driver BEAST with Ginormous presence. 🔥
For me personally if I were to own and choose:
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I highly recommend watching this on a TV or at the least, a 27in+ monitor with some sort of upgrade speakers or soundbar. Definitely NOT your phone. For me, my 85in Sony Bravía took this visual, experience to another level! The way this video was shot and edited from drone and in-car is amazingly entertaining.

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Say what you want about the #GTD... It is overpriced, too heavy, blah, blah, blah. Based on these actual "Race Car Drivers and actual Experts" opinion, it is a highly desirable car. Huge props to FORD for building such a Track Worthy and Daily Driver BEAST with Ginormous presence. ��
For me personally if I were to own and choose:
GTD
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911 TT (GT3RS is simply too raw, harsh and outlandish for public roads)
What makes you think the GTD would be any better on the road than the GT3? By all accounts from the video, it's just as much a track-only-car.
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What makes you think the GTD would be any better on the road than the GT3?
I have a neighbor who owns a 992.2 TT and he drove the GT3RS on a track and the street and they confirmed it was like driving a gocart and no way would he daily it.
From every review I've seen on the GTD, it's super sophisticated suspension allows for daily driving on roads.
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I've driven a 991.2 3RS on street. The suspension is surprisingly livable on a daily basis. It's super firm but not too harsh. E9x M3 EDC in Sport is harsher by comparison. But the 3RS' lack of sound insulation would drive anyone crazy. You hear every damn sand particle that strikes underneath the car. The noise is incessant.
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      11-09-2025, 01:26 PM   #5
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I've driven a 991.2 3RS on street. The suspension is surprisingly livable on a daily basis. It's super firm but not too harsh. E9x M3 EDC in Sport is harsher by comparison. But the 3RS' lack of sound insulation would drive anyone crazy. You hear every damn sand particle that strikes underneath the car. The noise is incessant.
Yep. I forgot about the Zero insulation aspect that he also mentioned made road noise pretty unbearable.
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Hmmmm... Guess the 'car guys' here didn't appreciate a very well put together event and review of epic vehicles...🤔
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I just watched it actually, it was pretty good, these guys always take time and care with reviews.

I am not a luster for these types of vehicles, bit too much overkill for me, if i want something that track focused i'd just get a Lotus 7 or Caterham. I'd still take a 997 GT3 over all these cars.
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Porsche fan here (and owner), but they've been making and refining the same car for 80 years - it's damn good as it should be. And that also comes with a significant price which IMO does not justify it. In real racing Porsche cant even run rear-engined 911s anymore because everyone surpassed them and they still are losing to BMW and Ferrari in GTD Pro and GTD.
The Mustang GTD is astonishing for it being the weight of a Panamera or S Class. Nothing more needs to be said as they're a limited run car and likely a collector car.
The ZR1 is next level, especially when you consider it's significantly cheaper than both and faster in any regard and of course on a track that suits the Porsche's light weight. A bigger track would only bring out larger delta for the C8. Plus, it is their first iteration of mid-engined car. Says a lot of about what they can do. Beyond that, it's not even the fastest C8...
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I've driven a 991.2 3RS on street. The suspension is surprisingly livable on a daily basis. It's super firm but not too harsh. E9x M3 EDC in Sport is harsher by comparison. But the 3RS' lack of sound insulation would drive anyone crazy. You hear every damn sand particle that strikes underneath the car. The noise is incessant.
Huge difference with a 991 car. Have you been in or driven a 992 3RS? It is stiff...the spring rates are 40% stiffer than a GT3 Cup car...that's all you need to know. It's a cup car for the road. Plus, these cars require a VERY skilled driver to extract that level of performance out of them. They're easy to drive 7 or 8 10ths, but 9/10ths or 10/10ths they're a handful which is why you see one every week being put into a wall or into another car on the street.
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I still don't understand how the GTD is so heavy though. Magnesium wheels, titanium exhaust, carbon fiber body panels, somehow weighs 4400 lbs. that is mind blowing to me. It's almost as heavy (within 175 lbs) of a Hellcat Widebody, and that car is based on a mid 90s E-Class chassis for crying out loud.
Still, it looks like an amazing piece of machinery. I don't know if I would take one over a ZR1 or GT3RS but it feels more special than those cars. It's more unique for sure.
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Imagine GTD menus 600 lbs if they would invest into light platform

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I still don't understand how the GTD is so heavy though. Magnesium wheels, titanium exhaust, carbon fiber body panels, somehow weighs 4400 lbs. that is mind blowing to me. It's almost as heavy (within 175 lbs) of a Hellcat Widebody, and that car is based on a mid 90s E-Class chassis for crying out loud.
Still, it looks like an amazing piece of machinery. I don't know if I would take one over a ZR1 or GT3RS but it feels more special than those cars. It's more unique for sure.
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I still don't understand how the GTD is so heavy though. Magnesium wheels, titanium exhaust, carbon fiber body panels, somehow weighs 4400 lbs. that is mind blowing to me. It's almost as heavy (within 175 lbs) of a Hellcat Widebody, and that car is based on a mid 90s E-Class chassis for crying out loud.
Still, it looks like an amazing piece of machinery. I don't know if I would take one over a ZR1 or GT3RS but it feels more special than those cars. It's more unique for sure.
Same. I figured it was the engine mostly. Gemini confirmed along with cooling and suspension. At least it has a perfect 50/50 weight distribution.

The Mustang GTD is heavy because of its substantial, performance-oriented components, including a supercharged engine, rear-mounted transaxle, advanced active suspension with hydraulic components, and a large cooling system. These parts were added to achieve a 50/50 weight distribution and meet the car's high-performance goals, but they add significant weight to the overall vehicle.

Key components contributing to the weight
Rear-mounted transaxle: To achieve a 50/50 weight balance, the transmission is moved to the rear axle, creating a transaxle. This significantly adds weight but is crucial for performance and power delivery.
Advanced cooling system: The supercharged V8 engine requires a much larger and more complex cooling system than a standard Mustang, adding substantial weight.
Active suspension: The GTD uses a hydraulic active suspension system, which allows the car to lower itself significantly for track mode and raise itself for front-axle lift. This hydraulic system and its associated components add considerable weight.
Wider tires and brakes: The car features much wider tires and larger, more powerful brakes, which add to the overall weight of the chassis and wheel assemblies.
Chassis and body: While the GTD uses many carbon fiber panels, it is still built on a modified Mustang chassis, and the addition of components like a rear subframe and wider fenders adds to the curb weight.
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Same. I figured it was the engine mostly. Gemini confirmed along with cooling and suspension. At least it has a perfect 50/50 weight distribution.

The Mustang GTD is heavy because of its substantial, performance-oriented components, including a supercharged engine, rear-mounted transaxle, advanced active suspension with hydraulic components, and a large cooling system. These parts were added to achieve a 50/50 weight distribution and meet the car's high-performance goals, but they add significant weight to the overall vehicle.

Key components contributing to the weight
Rear-mounted transaxle: To achieve a 50/50 weight balance, the transmission is moved to the rear axle, creating a transaxle. This significantly adds weight but is crucial for performance and power delivery.
Advanced cooling system: The supercharged V8 engine requires a much larger and more complex cooling system than a standard Mustang, adding substantial weight.
Active suspension: The GTD uses a hydraulic active suspension system, which allows the car to lower itself significantly for track mode and raise itself for front-axle lift. This hydraulic system and its associated components add considerable weight.
Wider tires and brakes: The car features much wider tires and larger, more powerful brakes, which add to the overall weight of the chassis and wheel assemblies.
Chassis and body: While the GTD uses many carbon fiber panels, it is still built on a modified Mustang chassis, and the addition of components like a rear subframe and wider fenders adds to the curb weight.
This kind of reminds me of the e92 m3 and the Camaro ZL1 1LE - the e92 m3 was heavier than a 335 because of the additional suspension bracing, engine, cooling...same with the Camaro which I think they said had 21 heat exchangers. That stuff gets heavier, and surely no different with the GTD.

BTW - if anyone here has not, watch the video of Chris Harris and Max Verstappen with the GTD. Max was not only impressed but also showed how insanely good it is despite the weight.
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Imagine GTD menus 600 lbs if they would invest into light platform
If they did this, I can only imagine how insane the car would be beyond how insane it already is.
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Saw the video and it was great. Truly amazing what they can do with these cars. If I lived near a track and/or had more time (and money) to do it, they are all an interesting proposition.

That said, for my use case, I’d get a C8 Z06, Shelby GT350R and 991.2 GT3 regardless of the price. The Z06 sounds better than the ZR1 and the other 2 are offered in manual vs dual clutch in top trims. All 3 are way more power than you need on public roads.

Not trying to dump on these cars as they are engineering marvels. I have to admit, the ZR1 on track seems like an absolute riot. I’d love to take a few laps in one.
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That said, for my use case, I’d get a C8 Z06, Shelby GT350R and 991.2 GT3 regardless of the price. The Z06 sounds better than the ZR1 and the other 2 are offered in manual vs dual clutch in top trims. All 3 are way more power than you need on public roads.
Am a lifelong JDM and a BMW guy. The C8 Z06 is my first ever American car and I can tell you I am very happy with it. One of the reasons that made me pull the trigger is a friend who is a car dealer and a Porsche fanatic who was singing his praises for the Z06.
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Same. I figured it was the engine mostly. Gemini confirmed along with cooling and suspension. At least it has a perfect 50/50 weight distribution.

The Mustang GTD is heavy because of its substantial, performance-oriented components, including a supercharged engine, rear-mounted transaxle, advanced active suspension with hydraulic components, and a large cooling system. These parts were added to achieve a 50/50 weight distribution and meet the car's high-performance goals, but they add significant weight to the overall vehicle.

Key components contributing to the weight
Rear-mounted transaxle: To achieve a 50/50 weight balance, the transmission is moved to the rear axle, creating a transaxle. This significantly adds weight but is crucial for performance and power delivery.
Advanced cooling system: The supercharged V8 engine requires a much larger and more complex cooling system than a standard Mustang, adding substantial weight.
Active suspension: The GTD uses a hydraulic active suspension system, which allows the car to lower itself significantly for track mode and raise itself for front-axle lift. This hydraulic system and its associated components add considerable weight.
Wider tires and brakes: The car features much wider tires and larger, more powerful brakes, which add to the overall weight of the chassis and wheel assemblies.
Chassis and body: While the GTD uses many carbon fiber panels, it is still built on a modified Mustang chassis, and the addition of components like a rear subframe and wider fenders adds to the curb weight.
The GTD is heavy because it's on a heavy chassis never meant to be a sportscar. A base model Ecoboost Stang freaking weighs 3600lbs. A Darkhorse weighs just under 4000lbs. Huge LOL.
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yep 100%, number 1 reason. Just a heavy old chassis.

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The GTD is heavy because it's on a heavy chassis never meant to be a sportscar. A base model Ecoboost Stang freaking weighs 3600lbs. A Darkhorse weighs just under 4000lbs. Huge LOL.
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I 100% cant wait to see what Ford does with a new chassis.

The GTD is an engineering marvel. Imagine what they could do with a chassis allowing them to drop 500+ lbs
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I 100% cant wait to see what Ford does with a new chassis.

The GTD is an engineering marvel. Imagine what they could do with a chassis allowing them to drop 500+ lbs
It is impressive what Ford did with the GTD, but most any manufacturer could take one of their sub $100K RWD/FWD/AWD offerings, highly modify and cut it up to the point that it's way different than the original, turn bonkers numbers, and sell it for $330K+ as well.
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It is impressive what Ford did with the GTD, but most any manufacturer could take one of their sub $100K RWD/FWD/AWD offerings, highly modify and cut it up to the point that it's way different than the original, turn bonkers numbers, and sell it for $330K+ as well.
Sure. But they didn't.
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It is impressive what Ford did with the GTD
It's not even Ford. It's all done by Multimatic, so about the same as a Singer 911 (but less bespoke and more mass produced). Time will tell if they actually sell the 1000 planned builds, perhaps that will encourage other big tuner/restomod shops to do these sort of partnerships and churn out longer production runs.
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