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What ev provides the performance, range and network all in one? At its price point? I’ll wait. People buy them because it’s an EV THAT WORKS. Other ev’s are either all 100k+ or really cheap but dog shit slow with shitty range and without the tesla network. If the cars suck so bad, why are people buying them? They’re actually expensive when you compare prices of them years ago. Has nothing to do with status or is it now? What status is that? I thought Tesla isn’t a luxury brand? I don’t consider my model 3 luxurious at all. I just know I’m driving the leading car maker when it comes to ev’s. It’s a superior brand to those who are trying. It’ll be like that for a while.
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Idk about liking to see it happen.
I’m ok with it whether it happens or not. I have an ev so I’m good. The difference is it’s going to happen regardless. That’s the part that’s not getting through everyone’s head.
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Patton~ "the g8x is the best selling m3 of all time" pretty sure that's not a fact bud, not something I don't like you are the kind of person who has to judge people when called out on your incorrect statements, and then project your feelings onto others with the guise that you are cool as a cucumber. anyways the "point" of my post was yall just justifying your luxury purchases, to others on this forum, why? you think you can somehow justify an m3 as a logical decision over a corolla. a hermes bag over a walmart purse. no one is saving the planet, everyone can say something is ugly/not, everyone has an opinion. however, how much a car sells per generation is not an opinion just human behavior I guess |
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alright, a car that has been in production for less than 2 years is the best selling of all time. right
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02-06-2023, 08:37 AM | #1197 |
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You can laugh all you want. I’m talking about initial numbers from the launch. That seems to be a difficult concept for you. It’s first year production sold more cars than the F 80s first year of production. Did that make it easier for you? I realize the public school system in America is messed up but good grief man. At least you have the Internet now so you’re without excuse.
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It may surprise you to find how many people in the forum actually know and understand (I for one know full well it will, it was never even a question), its the question of when and how
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Are you really arguing semantics? OK man. Let’s just agree to disagree. I bet we can agree on something. I bet we both hope the Philadelphia eagles crush the Kansas City Chiefs Sunday. Are you with me?
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When is already stated. 2030 or 2035 for the US.
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You also completely ignored what I said. Just because YOU don't think they're a status symbol or luxury doesn't mean jack. BTW, the KIA EV6 not only charges faster but can also use all chargers that use the STANDARDIZED J1772 plug, unlike Tesla with their proprietary connector. Kia is utilizing an 800v architecture whereas Tesla is stuck on 400v, meaning the EV6 or Ioniq can go from 10% to 80% in ~15 minutes. You probably wouldn't consider it though, because "Ew it's a Kia..." |
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Tesla includes a j1772 plug with their cars what do you mean?
It’s also faster to 60. You can hate tesla all you want, they’re still the leader in ev sales period.
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You once again ignored what I said. Hope your shotty build quality treats you well in your Model 3! |
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That being said everything I have experienced, read and seen from other people online is that the Tesla charging network is vastly superior to what's available for other EVs. Just for starters that J1772 plug is clunky as fuck. While the Tesla plug may not be "standard" it's a far better user experience. There also isn't a whole bunch of different charge networks for which you need to have accounts for each etc. The integration into the Tesla nav etc is significantly better (from what I've read). So the Kia could probably charge faster in an ideal world with max charger output etc. I'm not sure that if my main concern with an EV purchase was being able to charge quickly on the road that I would consider anything other than a Tesla. As I personally don't really care about that I would certainly consider the Kia or the new Hyundais, but I would care more about total range than charging capabilities. I also like many of the features of the Tesla (which may or may not be available in others) like using the phone as the key, the phone app to control AC etc. I saw a video of some EV, can't remember which, where they had to push the "ignition" button to start it. Why? |
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Whereas if you took your ev6 you can’t use the tesla supercharger network. At least not yet I don’t think. Maybe Elon will be kind enough to allow non teslas use his network somehow. I didn’t ignore what you said, I already shitted on it. Tesla is the leader in ev period. Best performance, range and network for its price period. Have fun.
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I hate EVs. They are BORING!
Yup, they're VERY quick in a straight line, but after that trick - what then? No engine sound No shifting No rev matching No skill needed Right now, I want nothing to do with them. I had my Porsche in for service and they inadvertently turned off the sound for the speakers. It took me two months to realize it since I never use the radio. I listen to flat-6, twin-turbo bliss. The driver interaction is what I'm looking for and EVs are the exact opposite. I had someone argue that it's the "latest technology so it's the best." I said so once auto-driving is the latest and greatest technology you'll be buying on of those since it's the best. A neighbor of mine has had four Tesla's over the years. He's had quite a few issues with them (yes, real world issues with build quality). Instead of the pie-in-the-sky nit-whit wanting to colonize Mars, he should actually build the best cars he can build and save the Earth we live on. He's spending billions of dollars to go to Mars. What a waste. It's funny how this thread has turned into who can charge quicker. There's a long way to go with this technology. Pick-up trucks getting 100 miles when towing or an electric RV that only goes 100 miles is NOT the answer. Hydrogen anyone? |
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Again, with the 2030-2035, I’ll believe it when it is far closer to the date. It’s just buying a car when the time is right and it meets my needs. None of the current crop of offerings meets both mine and the wife's list. Of course, that's my take, it works for you then more power to you.
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