Can we use E85 Fuel on our cars???

e92sport · 01-21-2008, 08:55 AM

hey i was wondering if we can use e85 on our cars and if it would make a difference..... I know flex fuel cars are able to use it but i know a couple people that use it on there Honda Civic Si 's and they make a difference. Just wondering if it would be the same for us.

Taittinger · 01-21-2008, 09:13 AM

What sort of difference? The gas here has 10% ethanol, not sure what an additional 5% will do.

sparkyg · 01-21-2008, 09:38 AM

No.

E85 requires special elastomers, seals, fuel pump and a fuel sensor that changes the engine FMS based on the fuel and prob. special cats. More parts I am sure.

All we can use is 10% ethanol, no more.

E85 is for the GM flex fuel vehicles etc. The car has to be designed for it.

If your friend uses it, GL, its his money. It'll wreck the car.

Hawkeye · 01-21-2008, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sparkyg

E85 is for the GM flex fuel vehicles etc. The car has to be designed for it.

If your friend uses it, GL, its his money. It'll wreck the car.

+1 It is bad for cars that are not designed for it.

Your car will run on Everclear too but I would not recommend it.

NavyBusa · 01-26-2008, 12:33 AM

With all the fuel pump problems, I've never used gas that has ethanol. Out of all the fuel pump failures that I've seen posted, I don't ever recall seeing any from Europe, and EU nations don't use ethanol.

shahils12 · 02-01-2008, 03:06 PM

isn't E85 85% Ethanol? not 15%

sparkyg · 02-01-2008, 03:24 PM

Yeah, its 85% alcohol 15% gasoline.

No, you can't drink it.

Hawkeye · 02-01-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sparkyg

Yeah, its 85% alcohol 15% gasoline.

No, you can't drink it.

You CAN drink it.... the results would just not be that pretty.

ages944 · 02-02-2008, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sparkyg

No.

E85 requires special elastomers, seals, fuel pump and a fuel sensor that changes the engine FMS based on the fuel and prob. special cats. More parts I am sure.

All we can use is 10% ethanol, no more.

E85 is for the GM flex fuel vehicles etc. The car has to be designed for it.

If your friend uses it, GL, its his money. It'll wreck the car.

+1

Ethanol is much more corrosive to a standard fuel system than is gasoline, and would foul regular fuel lines after only a few tankfuls. Given that E85 has a lower energy density, your fuel economy is also lower, which is why flex fuel cars have a 30% larger fuel tank than standard cars.

ScheerSpeed · 02-02-2008, 09:38 PM

so ethanol really isn't more efficient?

jetblk328i · 02-02-2008, 10:16 PM

im not sure thatd be a good idea.....buy a C Class, they are Gas or E85! lol

imolazhp_ci · 02-02-2008, 10:21 PM

ethanol is bad for all cars over time, even ones designed for it. most scientists think its horribly designed and simply a trend. it creates water vapor inside the engine which corrodes cylinder walls and seals.

E90330iS · 02-03-2008, 05:14 PM

Sooner or later all cars will need to adapt to it and E85 will be everywhere!!

Jaws · 02-03-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ScheerSpeed

so ethanol really isn't more efficient?

NO!!!. It is less efficient. There is less heat energy in ethanol than in the same volume of gasoline. Ethanol burns cleaner and makes farmers money.

imolazhp_ci · 02-04-2008, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by E90330iS

Sooner or later all cars will need to adapt to it and E85 will be everywhere!!

wanna bet money on that?

luckyD · 02-04-2008, 01:10 PM

check BMW of brazil as they mostly use ethanol in brazil

Couch · 02-04-2008, 01:15 PM

Ethanol is crap. And makes the price of food more expensive because of it.

TheAcAvenger · 02-04-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaws

NO!!!. It is less efficient. There is less heat energy in ethanol than in the same volume of gasoline. Ethanol burns cleaner and makes farmers money.

Not to mention that you use more gasoline growing and manufacturing the corn it takes to make it than you gain from its production. By a pretty ridiculous ratio too. Ethanol is the biggest scam in decades.

Hawkeye · 02-04-2008, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAcAvenger

Ethanol is the biggest scam in decades.

I can think of a few bigger 'scams'...

wshekari · 02-06-2008, 09:10 AM

once they can mass produce cellulose based ethanol, corn wont be necessary. ethanol still sucks tho.

ages944 · 02-07-2008, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Railgun

Once I figure out how to mass produce my own methane, I'll be in buisness too, but I think that'll suck more.

eat lots and lots of chili. You'll be producing clouds of methane in no time

LACA335i · 02-07-2008, 11:29 PM

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hey i was wondering if we can use e85 on our cars and if it would make a difference..... I know flex fuel cars are able to use it but i know a couple people that use it on there Honda Civic Si 's and they make a difference. Just wondering if it would be the same for us.

no unless you want to replace the whole Fuel system.. YOu can modify to e85, but it will cost you more than arm and leg.

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sparkyg Brigadier General 130 Rep 3,523 Posts Drives: work truck Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oil Country iTrader: (5)	No. E85 requires special elastomers, seals, fuel pump and a fuel sensor that changes the engine FMS based on the fuel and prob. special cats. More parts I am sure. All we can use is 10% ethanol, no more. E85 is for the GM flex fuel vehicles etc. The car has to be designed for it. If your friend uses it, GL, its his money. It'll wreck the car.
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NavyBusa Enlisted Member 0 Rep 31 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Carmel, CA iTrader: (1)	With all the fuel pump problems, I've never used gas that has ethanol. Out of all the fuel pump failures that I've seen posted, I don't ever recall seeing any from Europe, and EU nations don't use ethanol.
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jetblk328i Colonel 205 Rep 2,457 Posts Drives: X3 M40i Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Central PA iTrader: (1)	im not sure thatd be a good idea.....buy a C Class, they are Gas or E85! lol
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imolazhp_ci Major 23 Rep 1,002 Posts Drives: Z4 M Coupe Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: orange county iTrader: (0)	ethanol is bad for all cars over time, even ones designed for it. most scientists think its horribly designed and simply a trend. it creates water vapor inside the engine which corrodes cylinder walls and seals.
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