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      07-25-2020, 09:17 AM   #1
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Had it with run flats for this car.

My 2016 came with Bridgestone 20" run flats when I bought it used with 28000 miles. Within 3 months I had two flats. Decided to replace these tires with pirelli RF's early because of the problems. 6 months later I have had two sidewalls blow out on the Pirelli's. The car never hit anything that would have hurt a RF tire on my Corvette. Learned my lesson with the RF's approved and sold by my BMW dealer. I am going to Continental or Michelin non RF's this week. I have run the Michelin RF's on my last two Corvettes over the same roads and not had a single sidewall problem with them. Nuf said
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      07-25-2020, 10:07 AM   #2
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Tell me about it. Pirelli is one of the worst companies I have ever dealt with on the customer service side. We've had 2 sidewall blowouts and 1 instance where the whole tire shredded just doing basic city driving. These tires supposedly come with warranties that cover such occurrences, but I spent over a year going back and forth with Pirelli reps and still haven't received a dime.
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My 2016 came with Bridgestone 20" run flats when I bought it used with 28000 miles. Within 3 months I had two flats. Decided to replace these tires with pirelli RF's early because of the problems. 6 months later I have had two sidewalls blow out on the Pirelli's. The car never hit anything that would have hurt a RF tire on my Corvette. Learned my lesson with the RF's approved and sold by my BMW dealer. I am going to Continental or Michelin non RF's this week. I have run the Michelin RF's on my last two Corvettes over the same roads and not had a single sidewall problem with them. Nuf said
First thing I did was swap out to Michelin PS4S and added a tire kit to the trunk along with a plug kit. Best decision I've ever made. Night and day diff over stock tires.
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      07-25-2020, 07:51 PM   #4
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I really want to replace my RF tyres with non-RF (Michelin ps4), but I’m worried about getting a flat, and always needing a tow truck. There is no space under the trunk for a spare (even a budget space saver size). What have all you guys who have made the switch from RFs done as a backup?

Also, did you change the tyres to the exact same size as the stock RFs? I did this on my Mercedes E250 convertible (it came standard with a spare tyre in the trunk - WHY BMW??). But when I put the same air pressure in the non-RFs, they tyre look very low/flat. I also tried pumping them up almost to their maximum (45 PSI), and they still buldge out the side and look flat. It’s weird.
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I really want to replace my RF tyres with non-RF (Michelin ps4), but I’m worried about getting a flat, and always needing a tow truck. There is no space under the trunk for a spare (even a budget space saver size). What have all you guys who have made the switch from RFs done as a backup?

Also, did you change the tyres to the exact same size as the stock RFs? I did this on my Mercedes E250 convertible (it came standard with a spare tyre in the trunk - WHY BMW??). But when I put the same air pressure in the non-RFs, they tyre look very low/flat. I also tried pumping them up almost to their maximum (45 PSI), and they still buldge out the side and look flat. It’s weird.
I went PS4S and haven't looked back.

I have the BMW Tire flat kit that fits in the left emergency kit compartment.

I also picked up a tire plug. I use this plug first before the bmw flat kit sealer. I've used the plug a few times over the years, has saved my ass.

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Thanks for the info. That sounds much cheaper than buying a full spare tyre kit, and also take up much less room in the trunk. What would you use to remove a screw or nail from the tyre in order to use the plugs? You also carry pliers and other tools?
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Thanks for the info. That sounds much cheaper than buying a full spare tyre kit, and also take up much less room in the trunk. What would you use to remove a screw or nail from the tyre in order to use the plugs? You also carry pliers and other tools?
Google/Amazon tire plug kit and find the one with the tools. The one I had came with a complete tool kit (need nose pliers) and few other things to help remove the nail, plug it, and cut it down.
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      07-26-2020, 11:08 PM   #8
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I had RT for 3 month and had HUGE bubbles on each side of my front wheels.

Went to DWS06 and never looked back.

So much quieter and smoother with non RF
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      07-30-2020, 10:12 AM   #9
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Bought the Michelin PS4S's which were on sale at Tire Rack. They are being installed today.
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      07-30-2020, 03:30 PM   #10
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Picked up my 750 and what a difference. Quieter and a better ride. Now all I need is a repair kit to include a sealer and plug kit.
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Picked up my 750 and what a difference. Quieter and a better ride. Now all I need is a repair kit to include a sealer and plug kit.
I’m looking at doing the same. Can you upload a photo? I’m keen to see how low they sit compared to the run flats. Also, what pressures are you using?
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      07-30-2020, 09:23 PM   #12
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I also swapped out the Pirelli RFs for Michelins. Much quieter ride!
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My 2016 came with Bridgestone 20" run flats when I bought it used with 28000 miles. Within 3 months I had two flats. Decided to replace these tires with pirelli RF's early because of the problems. 6 months later I have had two sidewalls blow out on the Pirelli's. The car never hit anything that would have hurt a RF tire on my Corvette. Learned my lesson with the RF's approved and sold by my BMW dealer. I am going to Continental or Michelin non RF's this week. I have run the Michelin RF's on my last two Corvettes over the same roads and not had a single sidewall problem with them. Nuf said
My 2016 came with Pirelli RF from the dealer. I didn't like them. They were stiff and seemed like body roll was worse with them on. I put on Pirelli non RF snow tires which I loved this past season. In spring I put Continental non RF all seasons and they are fantastic. I don't like the idea of not having a spare but the non RF is fantastic in comparison. I previous had an E61 wagon and it handled much better with non RF tires. I have come to the conclusion that RF isn't worth the cost financially or performance wise.
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My car came with GoodYear Excellence RF which are super quiet. When I'm driving on the highway I cannot hear a thing!
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      09-21-2020, 01:10 PM   #15
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All Season Tire

Has anyone used the Goodyear Eagle Exhilarate all season on their 750i. thanks
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I've just had all 4 corners shod with Pirelli PZ4 Luxury Saloon RFT (I never knew they existed until I was ringing round). The difference with them over normal Pirelli RFT is they are designed for the 7 series and other luxury saloons.

They are (*) marked for BMW and they are 4db quieter than normal PZero (69db vs 73db). I had Bridgestone RFT on previously but these are waaaaay quieter over the last couple of hundred miles I've done on them.

I was going to go Michelin PS4S but decided against it for now as didn't want a can of tyre foam rattling around the boot.
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      09-22-2020, 04:34 PM   #17
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Not sure about tire sizes for your cars, but I switched to Michelin PS3ZP runflats on my M550 and love themn. They are quiet, smooth, grippy, and I have had no more sidewall problems.
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Not sure about tire sizes for your cars, but I switched to Michelin PS3ZP runflats on my M550 and love themn. They are quiet, smooth, grippy, and I have had no more sidewall problems.
Sizes for mine are

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245/40/20

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275/35/20
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