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      01-18-2022, 03:50 PM   #23
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Let's take a bet… how long until we see "The Final V8"?
I don't like betting on things that make me cry. 😢
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For $200.000 I'll buy a model s plaid AND a manual M3, then I have the best of both worlds for many years to come!
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For $200.000 I'll buy a model s plaid AND a manual M3, then I have the best of both worlds for many years to come!
Save some money so when the Tesla needs $30K to replace the battery it won't cause a hardship.
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For $200.000 I'll buy a model s plaid AND a manual M3, then I have the best of both worlds for many years to come!
Every EV sold now is another nail in the coffin for ICE cars, and manuals will die long before gas engines do. Don't buy an EV and then complain when you can't buy an M3 anymore.
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For $200.000 I'll buy a model s plaid AND a manual M3, then I have the best of both worlds for many years to come!
Save some money so when the Tesla needs $30K to replace the battery it won't cause a hardship.
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For $200.000 I'll buy a model s plaid AND a manual M3, then I have the best of both worlds for many years to come!
Every EV sold now is another nail in the coffin for ICE cars, and manuals will die long before gas engines do. Don't buy an EV and then complain when you can't buy an M3 anymore.
Here we go again…this thread got derailed pretty quickly to the EV debate.

Back on topic..how is BMW NA going to allocate 12 vehicles, figure a lottery.

Best bang for the buck with would be pure metal silver, doubt it would be offered at no cost at MRSP of $200 k.
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For $200.000 I'll buy a model s plaid AND a manual M3, then I have the best of both worlds for many years to come!
Every EV sold now is another nail in the coffin for ICE cars, and manuals will die long before gas engines do. Don't buy an EV and then complain when you can't buy an M3 anymore.
Here we go again…this thread got derailed pretty quickly to the EV debate.

Back on topic..how is BMW NA going to allocate 12 vehicles, figure a lottery.

Best bang for the buck with would be pure metal silver, doubt it would be offered at no cost at MRSP of $200 k.
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For $200.000 I'll buy a model s plaid AND a manual M3, then I have the best of both worlds for many years to come!
Save some money so when the Tesla needs $30K to replace the battery it won't cause a hardship.
Just for your info, Tesla battery is under 10 years warranty.
How much a 12 cylinder 200 k seven series price drops after 10 years??
I have 3 bmws and 1 Tesla, they are not mutually exclusive. I know we are passionate about BMWs, but I'm not so sure we have many patrol head passionate people left in bmw headquarter any more.
I enjoy driving my manual m235, i8 and Tesla, each in different way.
At the end, life is is long enough if you how to enjoy it. Drive whatever makes you happy.

I'm just saying as a car enthusiasts you can do much better with 200k than buying a 7 series.
These are just marketing tactics that a car company does. You probably can buy that car half price 1-2 years later.
In 2018 I felt in love in "m5 first edition"(frozen red, only 400 made), but the dealer wanted 165k for that car. I bought it the next year for 95k and 8000 miles on it.
Just my 2 cents.
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In 2018 I felt in love in "m5 first edition"(frozen red, only 400 made), but the dealer wanted 165k for that car. I bought it the next year for 95k and 8000 miles on it.
And someone else might wait another year or two and take that same $95k an buy that used M5 and a used M3. This argument can go on forever.

Agreed with posters above - back to the final V12.
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I turned in my 2019 760 lease last month. I REALLY miss it. I thought about ordering a new Frozen Bluestone over Tartufo 760 but ultimately ordered an S Class. (Which does NOT compare). This is a sad end to an era. 12 people will be very lucky to get one of these
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This is indeed a very sad day.

I'd love the N74 in an M8 though. If it was RWD and a dual clutch or 6MT the M6 would be gone in a second. Ohh yes I know how unrealistic that is.
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With a V12 and just 12 cars made, this will be a collectible, no doubt, and likely worth much more in just a few years.
This is an interesting question.

Will ICE cars retain value, once the world of cars shifts from fossil fuels to electricity (or hydrogen, etc.)?

I don't know.
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Oh shit. I wonder if I should try and snatch one of these versus the 23 X5m...
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This is indeed a very sad day.

I'd love the N74 in an M8 though. If it was RWD and a dual clutch or 6MT the M6 would be gone in a second. Ohh yes I know how unrealistic that is.
This I like. Send off the V12 with a joint build. Twelve 7 series and twelve 860CSi (with a manual).
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For $200.000 I'll buy a model s plaid AND a manual M3, then I have the best of both worlds for many years to come!
Save some money so when the Tesla needs $30K to replace the battery it won't cause a hardship.
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For $200.000 I'll buy a model s plaid AND a manual M3, then I have the best of both worlds for many years to come!
Every EV sold now is another nail in the coffin for ICE cars, and manuals will die long before gas engines do. Don't buy an EV and then complain when you can't buy an M3 anymore.
Here we go again…this thread got derailed pretty quickly to the EV debate.

Back on topic..how is BMW NA going to allocate 12 vehicles, figure a lottery.

Best bang for the buck with would be pure metal silver, doubt it would be offered at no cost at MRSP of $200 k.
I would really like to see Pure Metal Silver in person to see if it would really justify the $10k cost. Just can't ever imagine paying that for a silver.
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Oh shit. I wonder if I should try and snatch one of these versus the 23 X5m...
It’s a cool idea. Especially if you’re going to put it in a garage and barely drive it, maybe. But unless you have Bill Gates cash, sees crazy to pay that much overage for a car that’s going to lose the value quickly. Seems like a lot to pay for the one of the final cars, when you could pay a lot less for a regular V12 before they end production.
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Oh shit. I wonder if I should try and snatch one of these versus the 23 X5m...
It's a cool idea. Especially if you're going to put it in a garage and barely drive it, maybe. But unless you have Bill Gates cash, sees crazy to pay that much overage for a car that's going to lose the value quickly. Seems like a lot to pay for the one of the final cars, when you could pay a lot less for a regular V12 before they end production.
The fact that there's only going to be 12 of them means they should be fairly collectible, so they will likely hold their value.

Similar to how highly the Shadow Edition X7s are trading for, and they made a few hundred of those.
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It’s a cool idea. Especially if you’re going to put it in a garage and barely drive it, maybe. But unless you have Bill Gates cash, sees crazy to pay that much overage for a car that’s going to lose the value quickly. Seems like a lot to pay for the one of the final cars, when you could pay a lot less for a regular V12 before they end production.
Yeah nah, I don't see this depreciating. I look at it this way, I can park 200k and take the tax incentives, probably even finance it and use the banks money and continue collecting interest (My eth nodes are still returning 10%) on my current capital. I bet I could put 3k miles on it per year for 3 years and turn a profit. This will be a collectors car for sure, as will most of these ICE cars. Look at what's happening to old once throwaway cars and other regular cars such as;

Clean HR 350Zs
S2000s
Blobeye/hawkeye STIs
Any Evo
DSMs
Celica GT4s
MKIV Supras
MR2 Spyders are creeping up
E9x M3s
2000s runny egg light 911s!


Some might posit that this is the reaction to the market having massive liquidity due to the most recent fed pump, but not all vehicles appreciated the same way.
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