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      Today, 10:56 AM   #397
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What is the difference? Most people never knew that an M235i or whatever was designated "M Performance" anyway.
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I've had 6 Ms over the years.

I drive a fabulous M2 now.

I had an F80 M3.

Had an opportunity to test drive the G20 M340i, and it was a beast. Better in every way than my old F80. Steering, torque, sound, handling, etc.

What does that suggest? That the next M3 will be even more spectacular.

As M technology drifts down to "regular" BMWs, including M "performance" cars, that's a good thing as far as I'm concerned.
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This thread is ridiculous. People should just get the car that fits their wants and needs rather than worrying about what other people have.
A M340i can still be a M car and not have the highest performance in the 3 series class. The M division can have different tiers of M cars if they decide that's the direction they want to go.
If anything at least less people will stop putting fake badges on their cars, haha.
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Damn very unfortunate. I wanted a M4 next but now what's the point. All the cars are M cars lmao.
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I drive an X5M. Well. It's an X5 M Sport. But I say the "M" part loudly, and mumble the "Sport" portion very quietly.
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I'm wondering if this is an attempt for "///M" to branch further away from BMW and become it's own manufacturer? Sort of like what Ram did with Dodge and what I'm assuming Mustang is starting to do with Ford.

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The reason people are bitching about M Performance cars is because M owners got to pay an extra $30K to get 0.5 sec faster car on a 0-60...

And we get an xDrive as a bonus so we are using them year round...lol

Yes, this is a Dakar Yellow 435i M Performance (now an M435i) Dinan stage 2, manual gear box, xDrive and very proud of it.
Please. I drive my RWD 335is in Quebec winters using it year round and I'm doing fine. Xdrive is so overrated. If I had a M4 it would be the same thing, I'd be driving it in winter.
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the people making these decisions are soy-latte people who drive i3s around all day FYI.

Also why does no one mention cooling? its a significant aspect of a turbo car.
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Going forward, today's M Performance models will be known as M cars slotting just below the single digit M models.

So for the 3 Series derived models, for example, all the below are now simply "M cars":

M340i
M3
M3 Competition
M3 CS
Nice move, now they have a reason to raise the price of M340
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Expect to see lots of M340 and M550 joining the ///M car meets.
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I really did own an M3, for 10 years, and even tracked it.

The M340 would walk the e92, since it's MUCH faster in a straight line and more than equal with its cornering grip. I'm well aware of the M mantra of overall capability, but that's what the M340 has.

Lets look at the M550 vs M5:
https://www.motortrend.com/news/2018...-m550i-xdrive/

"25 percent price increase for maybe 17 percent more performance"

I'm just wondering why the 550 isn't an M car since it has M performance.

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So, you first wrote that an M5 has 17% better performance, then you ask the underlined question?
Also, in the mind of a true enthusiast, the "performance" is much broader term than 0-60 or a 1/4 mile number.
M550 is not an M because it has completely different steering, transmission, drivetrain, suspension, and many other pieces that are optimized to work together well in an M model
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"There, you are paying for the AMG name even though the car really has zero upgrades over the other models." Really? Zero upgrades? The cheap A 220 makes 181 hp, the A 35 makes 302 hp. Also the A 35 comes with 4 matic and a different suspension and settings. The list goes on regarding the differences. I'm not saying the A 35 is all the special but saying it has "zero upgrades" is completely false.
A Class? Be serious.

I am talking real cars here....I don't even know what an A Class looks like.

300 horsepower on an AMG? My SL55 had almost 500.....FIFTEEN YEARS AGO!

Here is the REAL question....let's see how many people want the M-Performance cars if they start changing residuals for those models to mirror actual M cars (lease mileage overage, too).
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I really did own an M3, for 10 years, and even tracked it.

The M340 would walk the e92, since it's MUCH faster in a straight line and more than equal with its cornering grip. I'm well aware of the M mantra of overall capability, but that's what the M340 has.

Lets look at the M550 vs M5:
https://www.motortrend.com/news/2018...-m550i-xdrive/

"25 percent price increase for maybe 17 percent more performance"

I'm just wondering why the 550 isn't an M car since it has M performance.

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So, you first wrote that an M5 has 17% better performance, then you ask the underlined question?
Also, in the mind of a true enthusiast, the "performance" is much broader term than 0-60 or a 1/4 mile number.
M550 is not an M because it has completely different steering, transmission, drivetrain, suspension, and many other pieces that are optimized to work together well in an M model
They work better in an M car, they still work well in an M550.

I said the M5 has 17% Better performance than an M550 - that's not a perceptible difference.
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