Spied: Is the BMW M7 testing in plain sight?

stvding · 03-24-2016, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by IS3andME

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I want to know how is this M7 go up against Alpina B7 and M760Li.
What engine will M7 use? Tuned version of V12 from M760Li or just a V8?

Go up against? No, this would be above both of them.

1000 hp from V12??

goj · 03-24-2016, 09:10 PM

The brakes certainly suggest ///M. But I'll wait to see

lemetier · 03-24-2016, 09:25 PM

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I want to know how is this M7 go up against Alpina B7 and M760Li.
What engine will M7 use? Tuned version of V12 from M760Li or just a V8?

Go up against? No, this would be above both of them.

1000 hp from V12??

There won't be an M7...certainly not in this generation. BMW is on a path to reaching every niche in the market it can, but there isn't a place in the lineup for an M7. It's already filled with the B7 and M760i. ///M cars are always going to be the top offering of their respective model line and the N74B66TU is capable of some astonishing figures if tuned above the minuscule amount it's at currently. The B7 and M760i are going to be in the $145k-$165k range. How many potential buyers are there for a $200k M7 in the USA? Not many, and certainly not enough to justify the expense.

VTECaddict · 03-24-2016, 10:41 PM

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There won't be an M7...certainly not in this generation. BMW is on a path to reaching every niche in the market it can, but there isn't a place in the lineup for an M7. It's already filled with the B7 and M760i. ///M cars are always going to be the top offering of their respective model line and the N74B66TU is capable of some astonishing figures if tuned above the minuscule amount it's at currently. The B7 and M760i are going to be in the $145k-$165k range. How many potential buyers are there for a $200k M7 in the USA? Not many, and certainly not enough to justify the expense.

S65 AMG fighter?

Alpina B7 <--> S63 AMG
M760Li <---> S600
???? <---> S65 AMG

lemetier · 03-24-2016, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by miamiten

There won't be an M7...certainly not in this generation. BMW is on a path to reaching every niche in the market it can, but there isn't a place in the lineup for an M7. It's already filled with the B7 and M760i. ///M cars are always going to be the top offering of their respective model line and the N74B66TU is capable of some astonishing figures if tuned above the minuscule amount it's at currently. The B7 and M760i are going to be in the $145k-$165k range. How many potential buyers are there for a $200k M7 in the USA? Not many, and certainly not enough to justify the expense.

S65 AMG fighter?

Alpina B7 <--> S63 AMG
M760Li <---> S600
???? <---> S65 AMG

Not really. It would just be fighting at a price point and even MB is realizing that there are limits. Their Money Printing G is a good example. It's difficult to get a new G63 without waiting a while, but G65's are sitting on dealer's lots unsold. The S63 is quicker off the line, through the quarter, and well into the triple digits than the S65. The B7 and M760i are quicker than either just off of conservative preliminary manufacturer's data, and the M760i figures keep changing as well.

1230vani · 03-25-2016, 12:44 AM

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Are these non run flat tires? To my knowledge all M cars come without runflats.

They also com without winter tires.

Of course, I saw these were winters but they are still non run flat. I also noticed snow on the photo.

shatty · 03-25-2016, 01:36 AM

Could maybe just be a M sport version? A 7 series with performance parts and maybe an option for a more aggressive tune thru M Performance? Ya never know. And about the quad exhaust....http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/imag...-photos_28.jpg

That car has quads...I dont know much about the 7 series but just throwing things out there

ORIGIN M. · 03-25-2016, 02:50 AM

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///M760i

terminator335i · 03-25-2016, 04:38 AM

Bmw just released the M760i as the top of the range. It will not release an M7 to destroy the sales of the M760i. M cars are always released two years after the base Series model. Hence give it two years before such things if it even does at all.
Also, it would not be a tuned S63 engine as found in the M5/6/X5M/X6M. A M760i uses a 6.6 litre V12 twin turbo, so it would never offer a downsize to a 4.4L V8 twin turbo in a M7. It would be an 'S -engine' tuned version of the V12 engine.

Pure · 03-25-2016, 06:38 AM

M7 ! M7 ! ...
I think it's important that BMW offers this car because is needed in the market. The Audi S8 and MB S-Amg for more than 15 years selling well. I agree it could take a V8 with 600 HP or 650 HP V12 T. BMW wakes up and starts selling this car. ��

spuntyb · 03-25-2016, 07:20 AM

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There won't be an M7...certainly not in this generation. BMW is on a path to reaching every niche in the market it can, but there isn't a place in the lineup for an M7. It's already filled with the B7 and M760i. ///M cars are always going to be the top offering of their respective model line and the N74B66TU is capable of some astonishing figures if tuned above the minuscule amount it's at currently. The B7 and M760i are going to be in the $145k-$165k range. How many potential buyers are there for a $200k M7 in the USA? Not many, and certainly not enough to justify the expense.

S65 AMG fighter?

Alpina B7 <--> S63 AMG
M760Li <---> S600
???? <---> S65 AMG

But do they really need an S65 fighter? I don't see them flying off the lots. S63's otoh are all over the place and in demand. They already have an S63 fighter in the M760/B7.

StealYourFace · 03-25-2016, 07:38 AM

Might be the new m5xi or whatever they plan to call it hiding under there.

I wonder if that 7 mule has rear steering, the rear alignment angle looks weird.

shivaswrath · 03-25-2016, 07:38 AM

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Bmw just released the M760i as the top of the range. It will not release an M7 to destroy the sales of the M760i. M cars are always released two years after the base Series model. Hence give it two years before such things if it even does at all.
Also, it would not be a tuned S63 engine as found in the M5/6/X5M/X6M. A M760i uses a 6.6 litre V12 twin turbo, so it would never offer a downsize to a 4.4L V8 twin turbo in a M7. It would be an 'S -engine' tuned version of the V12 engine.

That would be crazy amazing!

YungDro · 03-25-2016, 09:32 AM

thread closed....

TheBry · 03-25-2016, 10:03 AM

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But do they really need an S65 fighter? I don't see them flying off the lots. S63's otoh are all over the place and in demand. They already have an S63 fighter in the M760/B7.

Let's also not forget that the M760Li isn't going on sale until Spring 2017 -- a full two years after production started for the Gxx 7 Series. I doubt they'd bring an M7 to market after that. For starters, it'd kill B7 / M760Li sales, and secondly, it wouldn't be on the market much time before the next-generation 7 Series bows in 2021 (or thereabouts). I just can't see BMW making that sort of investment in this segment.

X3paul · 03-25-2016, 10:09 AM

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Not really. Much rather have a proper NA engine rwd manual sports car (like porsche does) than another heavy M(arketing) pointless exercise than only can be driven in germany at speeds that a 740d could too. A z2 would get my money. This wouldnt

porsches are going turbo charged now there is no N/A. and the M7 would sell like crazy no pointless exercise. you cant afford one anyway this car costs more than your house. so you have no right to judge.

Donald is that you? First things first: porsche 911 R. Second which house? If its my London house than no it cost far far less than that. Far, far less believe me. London house prices are nuts these days. If its my newcastle house maybe might cost 10 or 15k more. Man you just "trumped" yourself...tst tst btw no mortgages on any of them. All paid for

TheBry · 03-25-2016, 10:19 AM

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Donald is that you? First things first: porsche 911 R. Second which house? If its my London house than no it cost far far less than that. Far, far less believe me. London house prices are nuts these days. If its my newcastle house maybe might cost 10 or 15k more. Man you just "trumped" yourself...tst tst btw no mortgages on any of them. All paid for

dsad1 · 03-25-2016, 06:52 PM

I don't think any M car has had adaptive cruise control, it's odd that they would be testing a car that is optioned with adaptive cruise control for an M car.

Cuz5150 · 03-25-2016, 06:54 PM

Wait wait wait.....in before, " NO M mirrors"

FilipMPower · 03-26-2016, 06:26 AM

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Donald is that you? First things first: porsche 911 R. Second which house? If its my London house than no it cost far far less than that. Far, far less believe me. London house prices are nuts these days. If its my newcastle house maybe might cost 10 or 15k more. Man you just "trumped" yourself...tst tst btw no mortgages on any of them. All paid for

I get your point with Porsche, but before thinking that Porsche is still true to NA and all that, you must realise if you can actually buy the 911 R. I don't mean the price, I'm talking about how limited it is. Making a car which is so limited that only a few hundred can own one doesn't mean Porsche is still making NA cars. Technically yes, but if the average man can't even get one because it is so limited, then this doesn't count. Any manufacturer can make special edition models which are very rare and expensive and are there just as a statement. In my eyes, Porsche no doubt switched to turbos, even if the current GT3s and the 911 R are still NA. These cars are difficult to obtain and therefore, in my eyes, don't count.

X3paul · 03-26-2016, 08:20 AM

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Donald is that you? First things first: porsche 911 R. Second which house? If its my London house than no it cost far far less than that. Far, far less believe me. London house prices are nuts these days. If its my newcastle house maybe might cost 10 or 15k more. Man you just "trumped" yourself...tst tst btw no mortgages on any of them. All paid for

I get your point with Porsche, but before thinking that Porsche is still true to NA and all that, you must realise if you can actually buy the 911 R. I don't mean the price, I'm talking about how limited it is. Making a car which is so limited that only a few hundred can own one doesn't mean Porsche is still making NA cars. Technically yes, but if the average man can't even get one because it is so limited, then this doesn't count. Any manufacturer can make special edition models which are very rare and expensive and are there just as a statement. In my eyes, Porsche no doubt switched to turbos, even if the current GT3s and the 911 R are still NA. These cars are difficult to obtain and therefore, in my eyes, don't count.

I do get your point but than the m4 gts, m3 csl (that I purschased 3m ago) dont count either? Plus porsche states that this "concept" of a purist car will filter down to other models so this 911r is just the start.

N & M · 03-26-2016, 03:51 PM

It is a strech but I have a feeling they are testing the dynamics on the model above the 7 series that was hinted a few times before.

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