BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   7Post - 7 Series Forum > BMW 7-Series Forums > (G11) 7-series General Discussions

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-20-2018, 10:13 AM   #1
Jason
Administrator
Jason's Avatar
United_States
40301
Rep
21,232
Posts

Drives: F80 M3
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

BMW M760Li V12 Review by Carwow

__________________
Check on the Latest BMW News
Become a fan of Bimmerpost Facebook
Follow us on Bimmerpost Twitter
Subscribe to Bimmerpost Youtube Channel
Appreciate 0
      07-20-2018, 10:44 AM   #2
RPiM5
Major General
RPiM5's Avatar
2856
Rep
7,883
Posts

Drives: Mexico Blue F10 M5(Mika)
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Sunny San Diego

iTrader: (0)

Love it! Love this car! Because ///M failed to develop an all new kind of proper ///M engine for the F90 M5, this 6.6L V12 is the best engine BMW makes right now. And that sound it makes!! Glorious V12 sound! The sound and smoothness of the V12 makes the reduced agility of the car worth it. Therefore I feel the M760i is a better buy versus the M5. The engine defines the very character and soul of an ///M even if it's not a "Full ///M" and this M760i has a bespoke soul that is hard to find in other BMW's these days.
__________________


Appreciate 0
      07-20-2018, 10:47 AM   #3
SabreE82
Private First Class
11
Rep
111
Posts

Drives: 2010 Space Grey M-Sport 135i
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Omaha

iTrader: (0)

The f90 is a monster, a wonderful car to be in! Recently had the pleasure to test drive one locally. If you haven't, I strongly urge you to. The engine and updates the car has received are nothing short of amazing, as is usually the case with the m5.
Appreciate 1
      07-20-2018, 10:48 AM   #4
dharo1
Captain
dharo1's Avatar
United_States
215
Rep
661
Posts

Drives: Previous: F22 M235i ; F80 M3 ;
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: El Paso, Texas

iTrader: (1)

Not bad, not bad.
Definitively a first class ride in a bit of a sporty feeling v M5 where it's a sport class ride in a bit of a luxury feeling.
Appreciate 0
      07-20-2018, 10:50 AM   #5
goj
Brigadier General
goj's Avatar
United_States
2252
Rep
3,622
Posts

Drives: 2016 EBII 340i 6-MT
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Bay Area, CA

iTrader: (0)

M5 competition for me but the v12 is badass
__________________
BMW CCA Member #516012
2016 340i, Estoril Blue, Manual Transmission, MPE, MPBBK, HRE FF04
Instagram: @brandons340i
Appreciate 0
      07-20-2018, 10:53 AM   #6
frKENm3
First Lieutenant
frKENm3's Avatar
United_States
331
Rep
357
Posts

Drives: a manual ///M4
Join Date: May 2016
Location: San Francisco, Ca

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2016 BMW M4  [0.00]
yet again... the ///M brand badge slutted around on anything and everything.
__________________
My16 F82 ///M CP - MW|SOfull|6MT|DinanS2|MPHAS|TrophyR1|ENLAES
Since: 08/31/2016

Instagram = @m.4play
Appreciate 0
      07-20-2018, 10:54 AM   #7
MachinesWithSouls
Colonel
MachinesWithSouls's Avatar
United_States
4833
Rep
2,442
Posts

Drives: 2022 M3 6MT
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: New Jersey

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2022 BMW M3  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by RPiM5 View Post
Love it! Love this car! Because ///M failed to develop an all new kind of proper ///M engine for the F90 M5, this 6.6L V12 is the best engine BMW makes right now. And that sound it makes!! Glorious V12 sound! The sound and smoothness of the V12 makes the reduced agility of the car worth it. Therefore I feel the M760i is a better buy versus the M5. The engine defines the very character and soul of an ///M even if it's not a "Full ///M" and this M760i has a bespoke soul that is hard to find in other BMW's these days.
Whaaaat? By that logic, the S65 V8 is not a real M engine because it's just derived from the S85. Stop worrying about the engine designation and DRIVE the car.
__________________
2022 M3 6MT - Portimao Blue Metallic
2022 X3 M40i - Tanzanite Blue Metallic
Appreciate 2
      07-20-2018, 10:56 AM   #8
TouringPleb
Brigadier General
4325
Rep
4,221
Posts

Drives: SRB 440i GC
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Cambs

iTrader: (0)

Guarantee you no one has ever paid £138k for one of these.
Appreciate 0
      07-20-2018, 10:57 AM   #9
Kr0m3assass1n
kr0m3assass1n
Kr0m3assass1n's Avatar
United_States
1094
Rep
858
Posts

Drives: 22 X7 M50i
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Virginia

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. In my case, I feel the 7er looks like shit, even if it's got that V12.
Appreciate 1
TXSTYLE13653.00
      07-20-2018, 11:32 AM   #10
Germanauto
Major General
Germanauto's Avatar
United_States
9666
Rep
6,075
Posts

Drives: Alfa Romeo Giulia, Rosso
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: LA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TouringPleb View Post
Guarantee you no one has ever paid £138k for one of these.
Lol exactly. They can't push base model 7ers out the door, imagine this.
Appreciate 1
TXSTYLE13653.00
      07-20-2018, 11:33 AM   #11
Germanauto
Major General
Germanauto's Avatar
United_States
9666
Rep
6,075
Posts

Drives: Alfa Romeo Giulia, Rosso
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: LA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kr0m3assass1n View Post
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. In my case, I feel the 7er looks like shit, even if it's got that V12.
Lol "shit" is a bit harsh. I would roll with handsome but underwhelming, both inside and out. I do think the 760 treatment especially in this beautiful blue color spruce it up nicely.

The last 7er to truly have a dominating road presence was the E65 LCI. What a perfect looking sedan.
Appreciate 0
      07-20-2018, 11:35 AM   #12
Kr0m3assass1n
kr0m3assass1n
Kr0m3assass1n's Avatar
United_States
1094
Rep
858
Posts

Drives: 22 X7 M50i
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Virginia

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Germanauto View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kr0m3assass1n View Post
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. In my case, I feel the 7er looks like shit, even if it's got that V12.
Lol "shit" is a bit harsh. I would roll with handsome but underwhelming, both inside and out. I do think the 760 treatment especially in this beautiful blue color spruce it up nicely.

The last 7er to truly have a dominating road presence was the E65 LCI. What a perfect looking sedan.
Thankfully for us, beauty is subjective.
Appreciate 0
      07-20-2018, 11:35 AM   #13
RPiM5
Major General
RPiM5's Avatar
2856
Rep
7,883
Posts

Drives: Mexico Blue F10 M5(Mika)
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Sunny San Diego

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoManyBlueCars View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by RPiM5 View Post
Love it! Love this car! Because ///M failed to develop an all new kind of proper ///M engine for the F90 M5, this 6.6L V12 is the best engine BMW makes right now. And that sound it makes!! Glorious V12 sound! The sound and smoothness of the V12 makes the reduced agility of the car worth it. Therefore I feel the M760i is a better buy versus the M5. The engine defines the very character and soul of an ///M even if it's not a "Full ///M" and this M760i has a bespoke soul that is hard to find in other BMW's these days.
Whaaaat? By that logic, the S65 V8 is not a real M engine because it's just derived from the S85. Stop worrying about the engine designation and DRIVE the car.
That's not what I meant and you know this. The S65 and S85 are two completely different engines, even though the S65 was derived from the S85. The S63tu4 is not a completely different engine from the S63tu, it has same number of cylinders, redline, exhaust note, etc... but with minor updates to the top portion of the engine. The 6.6L V12 is in a league of its own. And I enjoy the G12 body style more than the G30, but I understand to each their own.
__________________


Appreciate 1
Law6377.00
      07-20-2018, 12:12 PM   #14
thermalc
Private
54
Rep
60
Posts

Drives: m4
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: bmw

iTrader: (0)

Considering this is the same engine that they use for the Wraith and other RR I feel its more of the same, all cars in the BMW group are sharing engines. The days of the bespoke M engines or model specific engines are long gone...
Appreciate 0
      07-20-2018, 01:23 PM   #15
ellipsis212
Colonel
ellipsis212's Avatar
1615
Rep
2,160
Posts

Drives: 2017 M3
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: RVA

iTrader: (5)

Garage List
2018 BMW M3  [0.00]
I plan to get one of these CPO in 3 years when they're $60k. An absolutely imposing car in person
Appreciate 0
      07-20-2018, 01:44 PM   #16
Law
Global Moderator
Law's Avatar
United_States
6377
Rep
2,309
Posts

Drives: E90 M3 6MT
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: USA

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2011.5 BMW M3  [10.00]
2004 BMW M3  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by RPiM5 View Post
That's not what I meant and you know this. The S65 and S85 are two completely different engines, even though the S65 was derived from the S85. The S63tu4 is not a completely different engine from the S63tu, it has same number of cylinders, redline, exhaust note, etc... but with minor updates to the top portion of the engine. The 6.6L V12 is in a league of its own. And I enjoy the G12 body style more than the G30, but I understand to each their own.
Yeah, that wasn't a very good analogy on his part.
Despite the two sharing development, the S85/S65 are really the only engines sold in street BMWs that were 100% conceived at M GmbH, hence why the word "bespoke" is often used to describe them.
Every other M-engine is ultimately derived from something else that doesn't have origins in the M works.
S55 from N55
S63 from N63
S62 from M62
S54 from S50, which itself has origins in the M50...and then from here, ultimately the M30 and M10 blocks (which is the same story with the S14, S38, M88).

With that being said, I agree with your perspective, that BMW and BMW M as of late is just into what I like to call "lazy engineering".
But that was expected when the whole company abandoned NA engines.
It's so much easier and cost-effective to use modular/generic platforms and modify and tune FI engines for various applications than to dedicate resources to a build one that is only used for one type of application.
Building an all-motor engine and optimizing it for a chassis is a much finer art, but that ship has sailed a decade ago.
An M V12 would certainly be nice (i'd love to see a V12 8er again), but unfortunately, it doesn't fit into the current BMW portfolio, which is highly dependent on fitting neatly within market segments instead of really pushing boundaries.
__________________
2011.5 E90 ///M3 | 6-Speed Manual | Slicktop | Jerez Black | Fox Red

E9x M3 Press/Media Archives Thread | S65-based Racing Engines Thread
Appreciate 1
      07-20-2018, 02:00 PM   #17
jhbodle
Captain
jhbodle's Avatar
142
Rep
897
Posts

Drives: F90 M5
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
What colour is this M760? Velvet Blue?
__________________
F90 M5 (Marina Bay Blue, M Performance Parts)
Previous: F82 M4 / F20 125d M / E92 335i M Ind / E90 325i SE / E46 318i SE / E36 316i
Appreciate 0
      07-20-2018, 02:45 PM   #18
M3 Adjuster
Banned
Albania
7905
Rep
11,785
Posts

Drives: 1M, X1 M Sport, E46 325ic
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Dallas, Tx

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jhbodle View Post
What colour is this M760? Velvet Blue?
+1... came here for the car color.... I am Nowhere near old enough for a 7 series.. maybe when I get to 70...
Appreciate 0
      07-20-2018, 02:56 PM   #19
M3GymNut
Major
908
Rep
1,211
Posts

Drives: 2021 M3Comp
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Miami, FL

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kr0m3assass1n View Post
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. In my case, I feel the 7er looks like shit, even if it's got that V12.
I concur, I'll take the M5 as well as probably the M8.
Appreciate 0
      07-20-2018, 03:18 PM   #20
raysspl
Brigadier General
raysspl's Avatar
992
Rep
3,001
Posts

Drives: walking, bicycle, & bus
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (0)

Would've been cool if this was available in natural RWD
__________________
re
Appreciate 0
      07-20-2018, 04:29 PM   #21
530iDriver
Colonel
530iDriver's Avatar
United_States
1708
Rep
2,539
Posts

Drives: 2017 BMW 530i
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

I think the V-12 is amazing but at this price stratosphere and in the realm of expensive BMW, I think I would prefer the Alpina B7.
__________________
2017 BMW 530i, Sport Line,Alpine White, Canberra Beige Sensatec, 19 inch V-Spoke wheels, basic plain Jane build with no options whatsoever..... "Less is more".

Before: 2011 BMW 328i E90 sedan, Platinum Bronze Metallic, Dakota Brown leather, 17 inch wheels, 6-speed auto, N52 6 Cyl inline N/A goodness....
Appreciate 1
      07-20-2018, 06:15 PM   #22
MachinesWithSouls
Colonel
MachinesWithSouls's Avatar
United_States
4833
Rep
2,442
Posts

Drives: 2022 M3 6MT
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: New Jersey

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2022 BMW M3  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Law View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by RPiM5 View Post
That's not what I meant and you know this. The S65 and S85 are two completely different engines, even though the S65 was derived from the S85. The S63tu4 is not a completely different engine from the S63tu, it has same number of cylinders, redline, exhaust note, etc... but with minor updates to the top portion of the engine. The 6.6L V12 is in a league of its own. And I enjoy the G12 body style more than the G30, but I understand to each their own.
Yeah, that wasn't a very good analogy on his part.
Despite the two sharing development, the S85/S65 are really the only engines sold in street BMWs that were 100% conceived at M GmbH, hence why the word "bespoke" is often used to describe them.
Every other M-engine is ultimately derived from something else that doesn't have origins in the M works.
S55 from N55
S63 from N63
S62 from M62
S54 from S50, which itself has origins in the M50...and then from here, ultimately the M30 and M10 blocks (which is the same story with the S14, S38, M88).

With that being said, I agree with your perspective, that BMW and BMW M as of late is just into what I like to call "lazy engineering".
But that was expected when the whole company abandoned NA engines.
It's so much easier and cost-effective to use modular/generic platforms and modify and tune FI engines for various applications than to dedicate resources to a build one that is only used for one type of application.
Building an all-motor engine and optimizing it for a chassis is a much finer art, but that ship has sailed a decade ago.
An M V12 would certainly be nice (i'd love to see a V12 8er again), but unfortunately, it doesn't fit into the current BMW portfolio, which is highly dependent on fitting neatly within market segments instead of really pushing boundaries.
The V10 is bespoke. The 8 is just a derivative of it, not a clean sheet design by any means. Did that make BMW lazy when developing the S65?
__________________
2022 M3 6MT - Portimao Blue Metallic
2022 X3 M40i - Tanzanite Blue Metallic
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:11 PM.




7post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST