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      08-23-2015, 10:53 AM   #67
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Have now had my 750 back for a bit and my report:

1. performance is visibly improved. The motor rocks (or is back to really rocking -- I hadn't noticed how much it had sagged a bit by 60k). It's an amazing performance vehicle given the size and weight.

2. My gas mileage is actually better by about 3 mpg. It's still awful at 16 but better than Aston Martin territory.

3. I am charging the car every night using a BMW charger, using the under the hood connections. Every night, the battery needs the charge (amber light) for several hours, minimum and usually overnight. It's not the PITA I thought it would be but clearly the motor on this thing eats batteries, as noted elsewhere.
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Nice to hear and see all the positive results from this very informative thread guys!

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      08-24-2015, 12:00 PM   #69
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Curious as to what kind of "Warranty" from this N63 CCP is performed are you guys being told/offered???
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      08-25-2015, 10:27 PM   #70
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Ok.. So I got the car on Monday after they replaced the fuel injector on cyl 6. The same night I tried manual mode to see how it does past 5000+rpm and I get the Drivetrain malfunction message again. Took it to the dealer again for diagnosis today morning. They called in the evening and told me they swapped the injectors from cylinder 6 to 7 and took it for a test drive and the DMF message came again due to cylinder 6 misfiring. Now that proves its no the injectors so they are waiting for advice from BMW. Looks like I have to drive the 3 series loaner for at least week now.

TXSTYLE I did ask my service guy to check with BMW on what kind of warranty I would get for this job that they are doing. Hopefully I will get a reply from BMW tomorrow on this.

I thought I was lucky that the previous owner had extended service contract PL and Maintenance program for 100k miles but BMW still found a way to screw me by saying cup holders are not covered under ESC PL's bought before 2014 and made me pay 145$ for the part.
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      08-26-2015, 12:02 AM   #71
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Ok.. So I got the car on Monday after they replaced the fuel injector on cyl 6. The same night I tried manual mode to see how it does past 5000+rpm and I get the Drivetrain malfunction message again. Took it to the dealer again for diagnosis today morning. They called in the evening and told me they swapped the injectors from cylinder 6 to 7 and took it for a test drive and the DMF message came again due to cylinder 6 misfiring. Now that proves its no the injectors so they are waiting for advice from BMW. Looks like I have to drive the 3 series loaner for at least week now.

TXSTYLE I did ask my service guy to check with BMW on what kind of warranty I would get for this job that they are doing. Hopefully I will get a reply from BMW tomorrow on this.

I thought I was lucky that the previous owner had extended service contract PL and Maintenance program for 100k miles but BMW still found a way to screw me by saying cup holders are not covered under ESC PL's bought before 2014 and made me pay 145$ for the part.

Haha! That is lame as fok.

I swear... What ever happened to "customer service and brand loyalty" (which affects just that!)
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      08-26-2015, 12:04 AM   #72
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I'm headed in this week for a couple of Cylinder Misfires (particularly on # 8!)

I strongly suggest those of you who do NOT own a "Scan Tool" do yourself a huge favor and grab one.
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      08-28-2015, 06:09 PM   #73
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Quick update : They found couple of "Roller Drag levers" broken inside the head. I have no idea how this could happen. But my cars Avg fuel consumption was 11mpg the past week. Since my car had the CCP done in a different dealership in Chicago(During previous ownership) they are waiting for BMW to approve the job work. I was told they may have to replace the cylinder head.

Can someone confirm if the cars Maintenance and extended warranty goes with the car and I (being the second owner of the car) don't have to pay for it?



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      08-28-2015, 06:11 PM   #74
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They were nice enough to let me switch from 3 to an x5 as loaner.
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I got a call today that I need my car's cylinder head replaced. Also my SA said since BMW is paying for this there is no warranty of any kind. I also have to pay 650$ towards the tax for the parts.
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I was updated that the parts are on back order and they expect it to be delivered by 19th Sep. Long wait..Hopefully they fix it good and i dont have to worry about it after that.
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SI B61 30 14
General Electrical Systems January 2015
Technical Service
This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI B61 30 14 dated December 2014.

SUBJECT
BMW Maintenance Program: 12-Volt Battery Replacement Measure

MODEL
E70 (X5)
Produced from 4/2010 to 6/2013
With the N63 engine

E71 (X6)
Produced from 4/2010 to 6/2013
With the N63 engine

F01 (7 Series Sedan)
Produced from 3/2010 to 6/2012
With the N63 engine

F02 (7 Series Sedan LWB)
Produced from 3/2010 to 6/2012
With the N63 engine

F07 (5 Series Gran Turismo)
Produced from 9/2010 to 6/2012
With the N63 engine

F10 (5 Series Sedan)
Produced from 3/2010 to 6/2013
With the N63 engine

F12 (6 Series Convertible)
Produced from 3/2011 to 7/2012
With the N63 engine

F13 (6 Series Coupe)
Produced from 3/2011 to 7/2012
With the N63 engine

E71 (X6)
Produced from 7/2013
With the N55 or S63 engine

F01 (7 Series Sedan)
Produced from 7/2013
With the N55 or N63T engine

F02 (7 Series Sedan)
Produced from 7/2013
With the N55, N63T, or N74 engine

F06 (6 Series Gran Coupe)
Produced from 3/2013
With the N55, N63T, or S63 engine

F07 (5 Series Gran Turismo)
Produced from 9/2013
With the N55 or N63T engine

F10 (5 Series Sedan)
Produced from 7/2013
With the N55, N57, N63T, or S63 engine

F12 (6 Series Convertible)
Produced from 3/2013
With the N55, N63T, or S63 engine

F13 (6 Series Coupe)
Produced from 3/2013
With the N55, N63T, or S63 engine

F15 (X5)
Produced from 8/2013
With the N55, N57, or N63T engine

INFORMATION
This bulletin outlines a customer satisfaction measure that has been designed exclusively for the BMW vehicles listed above. It involves the replacement of the 12-volt battery as a preventive maintenance measure.

This 12-volt battery replacement measure is:

Effective with repairs dated on or after January 1, 2015.
Applicable to vehicles that are still covered by the BMW Maintenance Program. This program is valid for 4 years or 50,000 miles, whichever occurs first.

If the battery was replaced previously within the last 12 months, then the battery replacement outlined below (combined with performing the engine oil service) is not necessary.

Please check the warranty claim history for the specific vehicle in the DCSnet Warranty Vehicle Inquiry to confirm if a battery was replaced in the previous 12 months.

Vehicles with an N63 Engine

Vehicles with N63 engines require additional cooling capacity, and the activation of the various cooling system components places additional demands on the battery.

Several enhancements have been made to the power management system on such vehicles. However, in a quest to ensure total customer satisfaction, please replace the 12-volt battery on a preventive maintenance basis at every engine oil service (engine oil service counter # 1, # 2, # 3, etc.), unless the battery was replaced within the last 12 months.

Note: The Key Reader/ISPA Light application will not show a “combined” battery replacement with engine oil service counter # 1 and # 3. Disregard this and replace the battery while performing the engine oil service.

Vehicles with an N55, N57, N63T, S63, or N74 Engine

To ensure total customer satisfaction, please replace the12-volt battery on such vehicles at the second engine oil service (with the engine oil service at counter # 2) only, unless the battery was replaced within the last 12 months.

CORRECTION
Replace and register the new battery; and for the models indicated below, upgrade the battery to the higher capacity.

Select and complete one of the procedures listed below, based on the vehicle’s engine variant.

VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH AN N63 ENGINE ONLY
This procedure only pertains to the models and production ranges listed above that are equipped with an N63 engine.

At every engine oil service covered under the 4 year/50,000 miles BMW Maintenance Program:
  1. Perform a Key Read on the vehicle and check to see if an engine oil service is “Recommended” or “Due” by miles or will be required in the next 60 days or less.
  2. Confirm the battery was not replaced previously during the last 12 months.
  3. If the conditions described in steps 1 and 2 are satisfied, replace the battery simultaneously with the performance of the engine oil service.
    Important note: Do not perform an energy diagnosis for this battery replacement.
  4. Replace the battery with a 105 Ah battery (this is an upgrade from the originally fitted 90 Ah battery). Refer to ISTA Repair Instruction 61 21 010, “Remove and install or replace battery” and proceed to step 5b. The following exceptions apply:
    If the vehicle is an E70 or E71 and was produced prior to 10/2011, replace the battery with the 90Ah battery and proceed to step 5a (these vehicles cannot accept a battery upgrade to 105 Ah).
    If the battery installed in the vehicle is already a 105 AH battery, replace it with a 105 Ah battery and proceed to step 5a.
    Important note: F06, F07, F10, F12, and F13 vehicles will require an additional hold-down clamp (P/N 61 21 7 592 923), only if upgrading from a 90 Ah battery to a 105 Ah battery.
  5. Register the new battery using ISTA. Refer to SI B61 15 12.
    a. Select “Enter battery replacement: same capacity” if the same size battery was installed. The replacement is finished. No further steps are needed.
    b. Select “Enter battery replacement: higher/lower capacity” if the higher capacity 105 Ah battery was installed in place of the 90Ah battery. Proceed to the next step.
  6. Start an ISTA/P session using the latest version of ISTA/P.
  7. Select “Conversions/Retrofits” and select “Retrofit, 105 Ah AGM Battery” for the first replacement/upgrade only. Note that ISTA/P will automatically reprogram and code all programmable control modules that do not have the latest software.
  8. After the programming is finished, the battery replacement is finished.
Always connect a BMW approved battery charger/power supply (SI B04 23 10).

VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH AN N55, N57, N63T, S63, OR N74 ENGINE
This procedure only pertains to the models listed in the attachment (based on the production date) that are equipped with an N55, N57, N63T, and N74 engine.

At engine oil service “counter # 2” only, covered under the 4 year/50,000 miles BMW Maintenance Program:
  1. Perform a Key Read on the vehicle and check to see if an engine oil service is “Recommended” or “Due” by miles or will be required in the next 60 days or less.
  2. Confirm the battery was not replaced previously during the last 12 months.
  3. If the results of steps 1 and 2 allow, replace the battery together with performing the engine oil service.

    Important note: Do not perform an energy diagnosis for this battery replacement.

  4. Refer to ISTA Repair Instruction 61 21 010, “Remove and install or replace battery.”
  5. Register the new battery using ISTA. Refer to SI B61 15 12. Select the “Enter battery replacement: same capacity,” and then the replacement is finished.

PARTS INFORMATION
Part Number Description Quantity
61 21 2 353 812 90/92 AH battery (if equipped) 1
61 21 2 353 814 105 AH (if equipped or for upgrade) 1
61 21 7 592 923 Battery Clamp Rail (only if needed for F06, F07, F10, F12, F13) 1

WARRANTY INFORMATION
Covered under the terms of an “active” BMW Maintenance Program period, up to 4 years or 50,000 miles, whichever occurs first.
Defect Code: 85 10 02 56 MP

Labor Operation: Labor Allowance: Description:
61 21 517 Refer to KSD2 Replacing battery, with registering battery replacement

And, if necessary:

Retrofit Programming: Upgrade Battery from a 90 Ah to 105 Ah

Labor Operation: Labor Allowance: Description:
00 00 556 Refer to KSD2 Performing “vehicle test” (with vehicle diagnosis system – checking faults)

61 00 730 Refer to KSD2 Retrofit programming of vehicle for upgrade of battery from 90 Ah to 105 Ah
And if necessary, also
61 21 528 Refer to KSD2 Connect an approved battery charger/power supply (indicated in KSD2 as “Charging battery”)

Refer to KSD2 for the corresponding flat rate unit (FRU) allowance. Enter the Chassis Number, which consists of the last 7 digits of the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). Click on the “Search” button, and then enter the applicable flat rate labor operation in the FR code field.

If a control module or component was working properly and/or had no related faults stored prior to vehicle programming and it fails to program correctly or requires initialization, this additional work must be claimed with separate labor operations under the defect code listed above; refer to KSD2.

Repairs to control modules and components with pre-existing conditions are not eligible to be claimed under the defect code listed in this bulletin.
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      10-12-2015, 08:49 PM   #78
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I got a call today that I need my car's cylinder head replaced. Also my SA said since BMW is paying for this there is no warranty of any kind. I also have to pay 650$ towards the tax for the parts.
$650 in tax AND no warranty?

Something seems off...
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      10-12-2015, 08:59 PM   #79
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I got a call today that I need my car's cylinder head replaced. Also my SA said since BMW is paying for this there is no warranty of any kind. I also have to pay 650$ towards the tax for the parts.
That sounds very shady! If it is indeed covered under this program, ALL costs should be covered. I'd get clarity from BMW corp and the Service Manager directly.
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      11-09-2015, 12:07 PM   #80
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On my way to the dealer for this campaign. Had an appointment confirmed and called before heading out to confirm the appointment again and was told I wasn't in the system. After talking for a bit and explaining that I'm coming in for a recall (after which he said, no it's a customer care package) he let me know that they will replace the injectors and finish the work in 1 day. After rereading this thread I don't see how that's possible and after inquiring about a loaner, I was told that they have none available and I would have to go through enterprise which I find to be complete BS. My appointment was confirmed a week ago and they don't even have a loaner for me (live nearly 1.5 hours away). Will update after talking with the dealer...
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Got the car back. They replaced all 8 injectors, the vacuum pump, and aome other stuff. Had an X3 28i X drive as a loaner which was actually quite pleasant to drive.
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      11-26-2015, 09:27 AM   #82
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Warranty on CCP work

I had to asked multiple times on this but the warranty after the CCP-timing chain work is done is:

motor is covered for everything for 2 years, unlimited miles.

Or at least that's what they told me.
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      12-03-2015, 01:23 PM   #83
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I had to asked multiple times on this but the warranty after the CCP-timing chain work is done is:

motor is covered for everything for 2 years, unlimited miles.

Or at least that's what they told me.
Interesting. I have read some dealers are stating 'no warranty on CCP repairs at all'. Guess I need to get something in writing from BMW NA...
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Latest info regarding warranty extensions:

https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sh....php?p=9463502

Anyone else hear of this?

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      02-17-2016, 04:00 PM   #85
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Does anyone have a link to the service bulletin related to this?
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Does anyone have a link to the service bulletin related to this?
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      03-16-2016, 11:00 AM   #87
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Here is a link to a forum that I got my information from.

http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1074012

I had a lot of this work done prior to this campaign coming out, BMW actually paid me back for the majority of the work.
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Here is a link to a forum that I got my information from.

http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1074012

I had a lot of this work done prior to this campaign coming out, BMW actually paid me back for the majority of the work.
Thanks! But I'm looking for the actual document. I remember reading that the bad fuel injectors can cause significant damage to other components in the engine including the piston rods. My car had the cylinder#1 rod cap bearing spun around and eventually gave away breaking the rod and the bolts were found broken in the oil pan. My car needs a new engine now.
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