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      07-20-2018, 10:13 AM   #1
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Love it! Love this car! Because ///M failed to develop an all new kind of proper ///M engine for the F90 M5, this 6.6L V12 is the best engine BMW makes right now. And that sound it makes!! Glorious V12 sound! The sound and smoothness of the V12 makes the reduced agility of the car worth it. Therefore I feel the M760i is a better buy versus the M5. The engine defines the very character and soul of an ///M even if it's not a "Full ///M" and this M760i has a bespoke soul that is hard to find in other BMW's these days.
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The f90 is a monster, a wonderful car to be in! Recently had the pleasure to test drive one locally. If you haven't, I strongly urge you to. The engine and updates the car has received are nothing short of amazing, as is usually the case with the m5.
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Not bad, not bad.
Definitively a first class ride in a bit of a sporty feeling v M5 where it's a sport class ride in a bit of a luxury feeling.
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M5 competition for me but the v12 is badass
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Love it! Love this car! Because ///M failed to develop an all new kind of proper ///M engine for the F90 M5, this 6.6L V12 is the best engine BMW makes right now. And that sound it makes!! Glorious V12 sound! The sound and smoothness of the V12 makes the reduced agility of the car worth it. Therefore I feel the M760i is a better buy versus the M5. The engine defines the very character and soul of an ///M even if it's not a "Full ///M" and this M760i has a bespoke soul that is hard to find in other BMW's these days.
Whaaaat? By that logic, the S65 V8 is not a real M engine because it's just derived from the S85. Stop worrying about the engine designation and DRIVE the car.
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Guarantee you no one has ever paid £138k for one of these.
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. In my case, I feel the 7er looks like shit, even if it's got that V12.
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Guarantee you no one has ever paid 138k for one of these.
Lol exactly. They can't push base model 7ers out the door, imagine this.
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. In my case, I feel the 7er looks like shit, even if it's got that V12.
Lol "shit" is a bit harsh. I would roll with handsome but underwhelming, both inside and out. I do think the 760 treatment especially in this beautiful blue color spruce it up nicely.

The last 7er to truly have a dominating road presence was the E65 LCI. What a perfect looking sedan.
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. In my case, I feel the 7er looks like shit, even if it's got that V12.
Lol "shit" is a bit harsh. I would roll with handsome but underwhelming, both inside and out. I do think the 760 treatment especially in this beautiful blue color spruce it up nicely.

The last 7er to truly have a dominating road presence was the E65 LCI. What a perfect looking sedan.
Thankfully for us, beauty is subjective.
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Love it! Love this car! Because ///M failed to develop an all new kind of proper ///M engine for the F90 M5, this 6.6L V12 is the best engine BMW makes right now. And that sound it makes!! Glorious V12 sound! The sound and smoothness of the V12 makes the reduced agility of the car worth it. Therefore I feel the M760i is a better buy versus the M5. The engine defines the very character and soul of an ///M even if it's not a "Full ///M" and this M760i has a bespoke soul that is hard to find in other BMW's these days.
Whaaaat? By that logic, the S65 V8 is not a real M engine because it's just derived from the S85. Stop worrying about the engine designation and DRIVE the car.
That's not what I meant and you know this. The S65 and S85 are two completely different engines, even though the S65 was derived from the S85. The S63tu4 is not a completely different engine from the S63tu, it has same number of cylinders, redline, exhaust note, etc... but with minor updates to the top portion of the engine. The 6.6L V12 is in a league of its own. And I enjoy the G12 body style more than the G30, but I understand to each their own.
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Considering this is the same engine that they use for the Wraith and other RR I feel its more of the same, all cars in the BMW group are sharing engines. The days of the bespoke M engines or model specific engines are long gone...
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I plan to get one of these CPO in 3 years when they're $60k. An absolutely imposing car in person
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That's not what I meant and you know this. The S65 and S85 are two completely different engines, even though the S65 was derived from the S85. The S63tu4 is not a completely different engine from the S63tu, it has same number of cylinders, redline, exhaust note, etc... but with minor updates to the top portion of the engine. The 6.6L V12 is in a league of its own. And I enjoy the G12 body style more than the G30, but I understand to each their own.
Yeah, that wasn't a very good analogy on his part.
Despite the two sharing development, the S85/S65 are really the only engines sold in street BMWs that were 100% conceived at M GmbH, hence why the word "bespoke" is often used to describe them.
Every other M-engine is ultimately derived from something else that doesn't have origins in the M works.
S55 from N55
S63 from N63
S62 from M62
S54 from S50, which itself has origins in the M50...and then from here, ultimately the M30 and M10 blocks (which is the same story with the S14, S38, M88).

With that being said, I agree with your perspective, that BMW and BMW M as of late is just into what I like to call "lazy engineering".
But that was expected when the whole company abandoned NA engines.
It's so much easier and cost-effective to use modular/generic platforms and modify and tune FI engines for various applications than to dedicate resources to a build one that is only used for one type of application.
Building an all-motor engine and optimizing it for a chassis is a much finer art, but that ship has sailed a decade ago.
An M V12 would certainly be nice (i'd love to see a V12 8er again), but unfortunately, it doesn't fit into the current BMW portfolio, which is highly dependent on fitting neatly within market segments instead of really pushing boundaries.
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What colour is this M760? Velvet Blue?
+1... came here for the car color.... I am Nowhere near old enough for a 7 series.. maybe when I get to 70...
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. In my case, I feel the 7er looks like shit, even if it's got that V12.
I concur, I'll take the M5 as well as probably the M8.
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Would've been cool if this was available in natural RWD
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I think the V-12 is amazing but at this price stratosphere and in the realm of expensive BMW, I think I would prefer the Alpina B7.
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That's not what I meant and you know this. The S65 and S85 are two completely different engines, even though the S65 was derived from the S85. The S63tu4 is not a completely different engine from the S63tu, it has same number of cylinders, redline, exhaust note, etc... but with minor updates to the top portion of the engine. The 6.6L V12 is in a league of its own. And I enjoy the G12 body style more than the G30, but I understand to each their own.
Yeah, that wasn't a very good analogy on his part.
Despite the two sharing development, the S85/S65 are really the only engines sold in street BMWs that were 100% conceived at M GmbH, hence why the word "bespoke" is often used to describe them.
Every other M-engine is ultimately derived from something else that doesn't have origins in the M works.
S55 from N55
S63 from N63
S62 from M62
S54 from S50, which itself has origins in the M50...and then from here, ultimately the M30 and M10 blocks (which is the same story with the S14, S38, M88).

With that being said, I agree with your perspective, that BMW and BMW M as of late is just into what I like to call "lazy engineering".
But that was expected when the whole company abandoned NA engines.
It's so much easier and cost-effective to use modular/generic platforms and modify and tune FI engines for various applications than to dedicate resources to a build one that is only used for one type of application.
Building an all-motor engine and optimizing it for a chassis is a much finer art, but that ship has sailed a decade ago.
An M V12 would certainly be nice (i'd love to see a V12 8er again), but unfortunately, it doesn't fit into the current BMW portfolio, which is highly dependent on fitting neatly within market segments instead of really pushing boundaries.
The V10 is bespoke. The 8 is just a derivative of it, not a clean sheet design by any means. Did that make BMW lazy when developing the S65?
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