[j330xi]

Any one else researched winter tires and wheels? Will 18" fit? I assume not with the bigger brakes on the Competition/

Tire rack only list 19" and the cheapest wheel:

HYPER GT HLT Star Graphite Per Wheel: $489.09
MICHELIN PILOT ALPIN PA4 245/35R19 $296.73 each

with TPMS of $140

Sub-Total: $3,283.28
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OR
BBS CI-R 19x9.5 Finish: Black w/Polished Stainless Lip $640.09
MICHELIN PILOT ALPIN PA4 245/35R19 $296.73 each
TPMS $140

Sub-Total: $3,887.28


Thoughts?

BMW website does not list any winter wheel/tire for the 2019 M2C, or any wheels.. Do wheel for the F80's fit the M2C?

It's been a while since I talked "wheel size offset and bolt pattern" . Suggestions of wheels . and tires to use for winter?

thanks!

[DanG]

M2, M3 and M4 wheels are the same as M2C wheels. I hope that helps.

Also you can read this thread about winter tires and wheels: https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1271517

[mr_lab_rat]

You are looking for a 19x9 wheel with offset around 25-30 for square setup. 19x9.5 ET33 should work as well. For example VMR V710 are about $250 each so you can probably get a winter setup for about $2200.

[M2s9pa]

Last winter, I ended up using the factory rims (had them sprayed with with pealable paint) and after researching and running the full cost/benefits, I ended up running this setup on mine.

These NEXEN were among the highest rated by ADAC (It's like the German AAA/Consumer report) in term of performance and noise.

NEXEN WINGUARD SPORT 245/40R19 (Front)
NEXEN WINGUARD SPORT 255/40R19 (Rear)

I bought them in Germany, so I am not sure if they are carried stateside.

[CJW2OO4]

Originally Posted by M2s9pa

Last winter, I ended up using the factory rims (had them sprayed with with pealable paint) and after researching and running the full cost/benefits, I ended up running this setup on mine.

These NEXEN were among the highest rated by ADAC (It's like the German AAA/Consumer report) in term of performance and noise.

NEXEN WINGUARD SPORT 245/40R19 (Front)
NEXEN WINGUARD SPORT 255/40R19 (Rear)

I bought them in Germany, so I am not sure if they are carried stateside.

You can purchase these tires stateside. Can you describe what conditions you ended up driving in? I am considering going a similar route.

[M2s9pa]

Originally Posted by CJW2OO4

You can purchase these tires stateside. Can you describe what conditions you ended up driving in? I am considering going a similar route.

I drove both on country roads with light snow and rain, as well as on the autobahn in all winter conditions at relatively higher speeds than in the US.

I do not know how they would handle deep snow, but then again tires can go so far with RWD even those with excellent ESC.

[Lotus99]

Originally Posted by mr_lab_rat

You are looking for a 19x9 wheel with offset around 25-30 for square setup. 19x9.5 ET33 should work as well. For example VMR V710 are about $250 each so you can probably get a winter setup for about $2200.

I wish it was that simple… Any old 19" wheel with the correct offset, its barrel may not clear the front calipers.

Today I went to my local wheel shop, and the test fitted a 19" BMW replica wheel on the front. The OEM front wheel is 19 x 9", ET 29. The wheel we tried was 8.5" wide, with 35 offset, and while the clearance of the front brakes from the spokes wasn't a problem (so the higher offset was not an issue), the side of the rim did NOT clear the brakes unfortunately. The OEM wheels seem to have an indent behind the spokes, so they don't rub.

So it looks like the Tire Rack OZ wheels above are the least expensive option, for a square setup.

[bri1042]

I ended up ordering a set of 641M's with Michelin Alpin's from my dealership for a couple hundred bucks less than the set Tire Rack had available. All the questions about what will and will not fit made me a lot more comfortable just buying the set that BMW lists as compatible with the M2C.

[Lotus99]

Originally Posted by bri1042

I ended up ordering a set of 641M's with Michelin Alpin's from my dealership for a couple hundred bucks less than the set Tire Rack had available. All the questions about what will and will not fit made me a lot more comfortable just buying the set that BMW lists as compatible with the M2C.

I called my dealer for their setup, and a full set of wheels, PA4 tires and sensors, before taxes, was $1350 CDN per corner, or $5400. All he told me was that they are 19" wheels for front and rear, with the same 245 tires on each wheel, but a different offset for the rears, so they don't tuck in as much. Not sure which wheel he was quoting or their offsets.

Converted into US, that would be about $4,000 I'm guessing. That is way too rich for me. I'm used to paying 200 to 300 for winter wheels, plus $300 for a really nice tire like the PA4, and calling it a day.

I was seriously considering the Apex SM-10's, on a group buy, for almost $400 each, plus tires and sensors, but still hoping to find something cheaper. So I might just skip it this year, as we get so little snow in the Pacific Northwest, and see if there are more choices next year.

What did you spend? I'm guessing $700 to $800 a wheel?

[bri1042]

Originally Posted by Lotus99

I called my dealer for their setup, and a full set of wheels, PA4 tires and sensors, before taxes, was $1350 CDN per corner, or $5400. All he told me was that they are 19" wheels for front and rear, with the same 245 tires on each wheel, but a different offset for the rears, so they don't tuck in as much. Not sure which wheel he was quoting or their offsets.

Converted into US, that would be about $4,000 I'm guessing. That is way too rich for me. I'm used to paying 200 to 300 for winter wheels, plus $300 for a really nice tire like the PA4, and calling it a day.

I was seriously considering the Apex SM-10's, on a group buy, for almost $400 each, plus tires and sensors, but still hoping to find something cheaper. So I might just skip it this year, as we get so little snow in the Pacific Northwest, and see if there are more choices next year.

What did you spend? I'm guessing $700 to $800 a wheel?

Yep, $755.50 per wheel averaged. One of the other US dealerships had them for sale online for $3022 before shipping and my dealership matched the price (with no shipping of course). I'm not happy with paying that much for Winter wheels and tires, but it was cheaper than Discount Tire locally and Tire Rack. The Wheels on Tire Rack are a ton lighter than the 641's (and lighter than the 788's) but I'm not that concerned about wheel weight for winter wheels. Amusingly, the 641's are still lighter than the 19" 403m's that came on my 340i.

I have to say, though, that leaving your summer's on due to "so little snow in the Pacific Northwest" is not a great idea, even south of you here in the Portland metro. Summer wheels in the rain at 34 degrees isn't the safest thing to do. It's been below 40 on my way to work every morning this week (and above 65 on the way home). Even on dry roads, general grip and braking distances are compromised enough that I can feel it.

[Lotus99]

Originally Posted by bri1042

Yep, $755.50 per wheel averaged. One of the other US dealerships had them for sale online for $3022 before shipping and my dealership matched the price (with no shipping of course). I'm not happy with paying that much for Winter wheels and tires, but it was cheaper than Discount Tire locally and Tire Rack. The Wheels on Tire Rack are a ton lighter than the 641's (and lighter than the 788's) but I'm not that concerned about wheel weight for winter wheels. Amusingly, the 641's are still lighter than the 19" 403m's that came on my 340i.

I have to say, though, that leaving your summer's on due to "so little snow in the Pacific Northwest" is not a great idea, even south of you here in the Portland metro. Summer wheels in the rain at 34 degrees isn't the safest thing to do. It's been below 40 on my way to work every morning this week (and above 65 on the way home). Even on dry roads, general grip and braking distances are compromised enough that I can feel it.

You got your wheels, tires and sensor for $750 a piece, or just the wheels? If the former, that's a great deal on OEM wheels. The cheapest Tire Rack option are the OZ HYPER GT HLT for $500 a piece, which look great.

Yeah, I know about the temp issues with summer tires below 45 degrees. I'm in Vancouver. I've ran winters for that reason on my last car, my RWD 335, every winter. I've got an X3 with winters I was thinking of using this year, if I can't find a cheaper package in the next month or so.

[bri1042]

Wheel, tires, and sensors. For 19's, I couldn't be happier. A spare X3 is always helpful.

[Lotus99]

Originally Posted by bri1042

Wheel, tires, and sensors. For 19's, I couldn't be happier. A spare X3 is always helpful.

Wow, how did you pull that off? At like $300 per tire, plus $75 per sensor, that's $375 for an OEM wheel? In other words, half price?

Can I get that price too at my local dealer?

[bri1042]

It's not half price. The whole set is on BMW USA for 3500 and change plus shipping. GetBMWParts.com (which is the web business of a BMW Dealer) has the set for what I paid plus shipping. I just asked them nicely if they really would honor their advertised "we'll match other BMW dealerships" note on their website, and they did. Apparently, there is one dealership in Georgia they won't match because that dealership sells below cost on a lot of things, but otherwise they just did what their advertisement said they would do.

[Lotus99]

Originally Posted by bri1042

It's not half price. The whole set is on BMW USA for 3500 and change plus shipping. GetBMWParts.com (which is the web business of a BMW Dealer) has the set for what I paid plus shipping. I just asked them nicely if they really would honor their advertised "we'll match other BMW dealerships" note on their website, and they did. Apparently, there is one dealership in Georgia they won't match because that dealership sells below cost on a lot of things, but otherwise they just did what their advertisement said they would do.

The half price comment was related to what the wheels came out to. They normally go for $700 to $800 each I'm guessing, and as part of the package you got, they ended up costing like $375 each. I see the package is on BMW USA for almost $3600. Well done.

Guessing it was BMW of South Atlanta they were talking about. They have that package for $800 per corner, including $35 shipping within USA.

[bri1042]

Originally Posted by Lotus99

The half price comment was related to what the wheels came out to. They normally go for $700 to $800 each I'm guessing, and as part of the package you got, they ended up costing like $375 each. I see the package is on BMW USA for almost $3600. Well done.

Guessing it was BMW of South Atlanta they were talking about. They have that package for $800 per corner, including $35 shipping within USA.

It was. When I asked if they actually matched other dealerships, the response was, "Yes, as long as it isn't BMW of South Atlanta". After all that, it's amusing that BMW of South Atlanta was more expensive than the dealership they did match. I'm assuming that the issue comes from other parts sold online by BMW of SA.

[Lotus99]

In case it helps anyone, I've taken some measurements of the stock M2C front wheel:

https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...9&postcount=24