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      07-06-2022, 09:21 PM   #1
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Joe Achilles just posted this video for covering a staggering 1100 miles in the G12 730d

Astounding, really. I have no clue why the US won't get these amazing engines especially the 740d which I've driven cross country in Germany and even the power and delivery doesn't leave you wanting on the autobahn.

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      07-07-2022, 07:08 AM   #2
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Many (most) Americans don't like/understand diesel, and so they don't sell well here. Otherwise, BMW would offer it. I had a loaner F10 540d (Canadian) for a few days, and other than the excellent gas mileage, I couldn't tell the difference.
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Since it’s a BMW forum, I’ll say I think it’s a G11.

I suspect I’d get about half that in mine, but I’d prefer not to drive a soot chucker.
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I can imagine how beautifully clogged the DPF filter with soot with such a driving style and its drastic reduction in service life

Here is an example of a "promotional" price from one of the dealers in Ireland
  • Replace Particulate Filter (125 to 155k Miles) €4460.88
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That is indeed a G11, that may have helped with mileage a bit. Don't think the car will come near feeling as good as a V12, however I think there is some legacy marketing issues with diesels being "soot chuckers" and also diesel gate . In reality I think the 3.0d releases about half the co2 per mile vs your V12. Something for the tree huggers.


Wow, those replacement filters are expensive! There's no way anyone would practically drive that way, well unless you were making a YouTube video trying to make a point. But even if it went 8-900 miles I'd be able to drive straight to Toronto or New York without a fill up. Not to mention, save a few coin while doing so in the current fuel price scenario.
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It's a shame that diesel is falling out of favour due to environmental concerns as they have in the last decade proved them selves to be very capable and they have been cleaned up considerably
They are however not suited for everyone and continual short cold journeys are not a good idea due to clogging up the dpf.

Had a f10 530d previously and liked the engine. Different character to petrol of course but the low down torque is impressive along with the fuel economy
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Joe Achilles just posted this video for covering a staggering 1100 miles in the G12 730d

Astounding, really. I have no clue why the US won't get these amazing engines especially the 740d which I've driven cross country in Germany and even the power and delivery doesn't leave you wanting on the autobahn.

I had a 2018 G30 540xd, 740Ld and 335d here in California and loved it. It's as simple as picking the green pump instead of 91. I wish we would get more diesel BMW's.
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Joe Achilles just posted this video for covering a staggering 1100 miles in the G12 730d

Astounding, really. I have no clue why the US won't get these amazing engines especially the 740d which I've driven cross country in Germany and even the power and delivery doesn't leave you wanting on the autobahn.

I had a 2018 G30 540xd, 740Ld and 335d here in California and loved it. It's as simple as picking the green pump instead of 91. I wish we would get more diesel BMW's.
how was the power on the highway? Does the top end of the revrange die down?
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I don't think we need more cars for drivers who tried to achieve 1000mpg by driving slow on the passing lane.
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If I'm so concerned about saving money that I consider diesel power trains; why would I be buying such an expensive car as a 7 Series BMW? That connection has never made sense to me.
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Diesels are comparatively more expensive and unreliable due to the complex emissions systems.

Diesel fuel is taxed at a higher federal rate vs gasoline.

Leasing is the primary method by which BMW wants to sell new cars in the US market.

All in all diesels don't fit very well in the US.
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It's a shame that diesel is falling out of favour due to environmental concerns as they have in the last decade proved them selves to be very capable and they have been cleaned up considerably
They are however not suited for everyone and continual short cold journeys are not a good idea due to clogging up the dpf.

Had a f10 530d previously and liked the engine. Different character to petrol of course but the low down torque is impressive along with the fuel economy
By far the best choice for environment. Lots of torque, exceptional mileage and super clean, especialy latest models. Actualy BMw, Mercedes, Bosch and Siemens teamed up to make the cleanest diesel ever.
But the green agenda must go on and ignorant people believe it….

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I don't think we need more cars for drivers who tried to achieve 1000mpg by driving slow on the passing lane.
Get your facts straight…
BMW builds some of the most sporty diesel ever made and was always in top.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/gen...ar-you-can-buy
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Diesels are comparatively more expensive and unreliable due to the complex emissions systems.

Diesel fuel is taxed at a higher federal rate vs gasoline.

Leasing is the primary method by which BMW wants to sell new cars in the US market.

All in all diesels don't fit very well in the US.
Diesel is very reliable. North America doesnt know to make a good diesel fuel. So, different story.

There are Mercedes Benz that are almost 50 years old and they still run today with over 1 or 2 million km on board trouble free, never touching the engine.
An Opel Corsa 1.3 L diesel takes 3 L of diesel for each 100 km (that is 78 mpg).
An Audi A1 1.6 L diesel takes 4-4.5 litres of diesel for each 100 km.

(All examples where in my family in Europe).

Unreliable because of emission system is a story teller for people that have no idea. Diesel runs forever if you take care of it.
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If I'm so concerned about saving money that I consider diesel power trains; why would I be buying such an expensive car as a 7 Series BMW? That connection has never made sense to me.
If I recall correctly, in 2018 when I purchased mine, there were only 4 engines available, 730d, 740d, 740e (in G11/G12) and 760 (G12 only) so just as the US don’t get 730d/740d, we couldn’t get 740i/750i, and if you do lots of miles 760 isn’t really a viable option given the high cost of fuel here. It is now > $10.50 a gallon for petrol and > $11 for diesel.

LCI reintroduced 740i, 750i and 740e was replaced with 745e in the UK market.

The 740d engine is just fantastic in my opinion (I have had other VW group 3.0 diesels and 4.0 and 4.2 V8 Jaguar Petrol, and it trumps the lot). It is powerful, and regularly gets over 850 miles between fills, and when road conditions force it (average speed cameras etc) I get even more. In sport mode on country roads, the acceleration is blistering, and makes passing traffic really easy. The onboard trip computer MPG is about 3 MPG too generous. My average since new is almost 45 MPG, and on a tank containing 4 x 100 mile trips, the majority stuck at 50-60 MPH, that tank was 49.8 MPG (onboard trip reported 53.2 MPH). When I had the V8 petrol’s , I felt as though half my life was spent in gas stations.
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Joe Achilles just posted this video for covering a staggering 1100 miles in the G12 730d

Astounding, really. I have no clue why the US won't get these amazing engines especially the 740d which I've driven cross country in Germany and even the power and delivery doesn't leave you wanting on the autobahn.

I had a 2018 G30 540xd, 740Ld and 335d here in California and loved it. It's as simple as picking the green pump instead of 91. I wish we would get more diesel BMW's.
Yes, I loved the diesel. I had E71 diesel, 2 F15 35d's, Porsche Cayenne Diesel. VW group and the whoever else they were in league with really messed things up here for those of us who loved the diesel.
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Diesels we're making a come back in the states. And then VW happened…and that completely killed the market. Now combined with diesel being so expensive. Never going to happen.
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It's a shame that diesel is falling out of favour due to environmental concerns as they have in the last decade proved them selves to be very capable and they have been cleaned up considerably
I believe the perception that diesels somehow 'cleaned up their act' was found to be spectacularly informed by one of the greatest commercial frauds ever perpetuated. Rather than say they'd fix their ways, BMW and all the other manufacturers simply gave up any attempt to pretext diesels were clean and are vacating the field by abandoning their diesels.

No many would surely would trust the emissions data published for any diesel these days?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/08/b...s-scandal.html

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/vw-bmw-...s-chambers.amp
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I can imagine how beautifully clogged the DPF filter with soot with such a driving style and its drastic reduction in service life

Here is an example of a "promotional" price from one of the dealers in Ireland
  • Replace Particulate Filter (125 to 155k Miles) €4460.88
This very statistic prevented me from considering a diesel-powered vehicle. Sobering reminder.
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