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M for Motor Sport gradually turning into an M for Marketing, some may argue this is already fully in place.
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Totally agree with you on AMG, they did it right with their monikers. Really like the GLC43 SUV. |
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The M340 would walk the e92, since it's MUCH faster in a straight line and more than equal with its cornering grip. I'm well aware of the M mantra of overall capability, but that's what the M340 has. Lets look at the M550 vs M5: https://www.motortrend.com/news/2018...-m550i-xdrive/ "25 percent price increase for maybe 17 percent more performance" I get that the M5 is a better car, with more road "feel", but the M550 has the Performance of the previous F10 generation. The article says the 550 feels great. I'm just wondering why the 550 isn't an M car since it has M performance. I say this often for people who use "because track" as a reason, but Modern M cars are heavy and big. Even that E92, while excellent at the limit and forgiving, was heavy to push around all day. You can feel the weight in the corners. Why are you tracking a car with full back seats and leather etc on a consistent basis? So, if you have the finances for just one car that you need to use every day and track often, get the M3. I'll be a half second behind you having just as much fun.
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So the take away for me is that all these "///M" performance cars now officially belong here
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By your same argument you’ve proved my point, bmw says the MPs are part of the M line up just like those wanna be m trucks so it must be so. Enjoy those 600ponies driving up the mountain to ski in m wonderland Last edited by m630; 01-17-2020 at 05:09 AM.. |
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I have to say, wife has an X2 2.0D XDrive.
Despite the ridicule here, great car for the money once we had discount. BUT the X2M235i "is a real M car' is a statement I could never agree with! That's a terrible M car but a nice performance model.
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The E46 328 "walked" the E30 M3 when it got launched in 1998. It's always been like that, it's called progress.
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The only cars I would buy from BMW would be CSL. M brand completely devalued and can't think of anything BMW currently make that in 20 years time will be regarded as a true masterpiece of engineering
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You said it: “market”.
That’s all this is: Marketing
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I really think people are taking this off track. The argument is not if M cars are better than M performance cars. I am sure M performance cars are more than capable for most. Some (most) people just don't care about absolute performance.
Argument is if the M performance cars are M cars and they are Not!
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Yes, BMW is a large, publicly traded, for profit corporation just like Daimler, VW, GM etc. It might be beneficial to venture out of Mr Rogers' neighborhood on occasion.
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Really! Gosh darn! For all this time I thought BMW, a publicly traded FOR PROFIT corporation, just wanted to make me happy by selling me fun cars. Thank you for opening my eyes to the dark truth.
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