The official "Ask a cop/deputy anything!" thread

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Vindicator3

Recent police-related items of note -

Give the llamas a badge -

https://www.msn.com/en-us/pets-and-animals/pets/crime-fighting-llamas-catch-thief-and-make-heroic-citizens-arrest/ar-AA1VVttl


Perhaps not the best place to hide on trash pickup day -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeihTJx3VMs&t=5s

And my favorite, from The Week's "good news" newsletter (copied since I don't have a link) - it must be amazingly rewarding to literally save a life, and what a benefit to the community this is!

IN A HEARTBEAT
Defibrillators in police cars credited with saving lives

Cardiac arrest survival rates jumped from 10% to 47% in McKinney, Texas, after automated external defibrillators (AEDs) were placed in all police vehicles and neighborhoods across the city. The McKinney Fire Department launched the initiative two years ago, basing it on a similar program in Seattle. The goal is to ensure that an AED is “never more than four minutes away from any cardiac event,??? said Good News Network. In the last year, the AEDs have helped quickly revive nine McKinney residents.

Here is the problem..


..liability!!!!

It sounds great - on paper (..and apparently in practice in Texas) - but the first thing we are warned about is liability. We are not trained medical professionals, and in this litigious society, we will not be covered if something goes wrong while trying to help because anything outside of basic CPR is not within our scope of training. Even the guys/gals who worked as an EMT or paramedic before becoming cops are advised not to perform any medical interventions that are not taught by the department. It is explicitly stated the department will not cover you against civil liability if you operate outside of the scope of duties, and the California penal code echoes that position. That said, this applies in California, so take that into consideration. Texas operates very differently.

[Vindicator3]

Yes, CA is its own animal in many ways. That said, I'm sure the officers in McKinney were trained on the AEDs before they were rolled out, and I'm sure they are also trained not to perform medical interventions that are not taught by the department.

And when I say "I'm sure," of course what I mean is I have no idea, but that would be my guess. This is the internet after all.

10% survival to 47% survival is huge, though, any way you slice it.

[UncleWede]

Stop data reports for LAPD didn?t look so good

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

Stop data reports for LAPD didn?t look so good

You mean traffic stop data?

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

You mean traffic stop data?

Yeah. Percentages of stops last year didn?t match demographics

Why apostrophes keep showing up as question marks?

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

Why apostrophes keep showing up as question marks?

For me it's hyphens that are showing up as question marks.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

Yeah. Percentages of stops last year didn?t match demographics

Why apostrophes keep showing up as question marks?

Can you elaborate?

Originally Posted by Esteban

For me it's hyphens that are showing up as question marks.

Any special character is showing up as a question mark for me.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Can you elaborate?



Any special character is showing up as a question mark for me.

On the app, correct? iPhone?

[UncleWede]

31% of stops were of black drivers, who only make up 8% of population. There were disproportionate stops of Hispanic as well

I just got done fixing some firewall issues that allows our officers to enter data into RMS. We were about to be out of reporting compliance

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

31% of stops were of black drivers, who only make up 8% of population. There were disproportionate stops of Hispanic as well

I just got done fixing some firewall issues that allows our officers to enter data into RMS. We were about to be out of reporting compliance

Ostensibly that is not concerning to me. LAPD patrol areas are often predominantly black (..or Hispanic). My patrol area has a high percentage of Hispanics, so if you were to look at my stops, they are mostly comprised of people who are of Hispanic descent; crashes lean mostly Asian.

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Ostensibly that is not concerning to me. LAPD?s patrol areas have a high percentage of blacks. Mine has a high percentage of Hispanics, so if you were to look at my stops, it?s mostly people of Hispanic descent; crashes lean mostly Asian.

But but but, you always look for trivial infractions to pull members out of cars

I know it?s a tool, but defunding groups are going to jump all over the stats

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Esteban

On the app, correct? iPhone?

Yeah, the app on iPhone. It is annoying.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Yeah, the app on iPhone. It is annoying.

Yes it is.

[T0RM3NT]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Yeah, the app on iPhone. It is annoying.

At least there is an app for Apple. I can't find the app for Android.

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by T0RM3NT

At least there is an app for Apple. I can't find the app for Android.

A change in Google's Play Store app publisher policy forced the BP app to be removed from the store. If you have it installed, don't uninstall it because it is no longer available! You may be able to locate the old Android app's .apk file and side-load it onto your device, but I have not seen anyone post a link for the file yet that I would trust.

Details are buried in the "Site Related Announcements - Suggestions - Feedback - Questions" section, if you want to dig deeper:

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=8


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[T0RM3NT]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

A change in Google's Play Store app publisher policy forced the BP app to be removed from the store. If you have it installed, don't uninstall it because it is no longer available! You may be able to locate the old Android app's .apk file and side-load it onto your device, but I have not seen anyone post a link for the file yet that I would trust.

Details are buried in the "Site Related Announcements - Suggestions - Feedback - Questions" section, if you want to dig deeper:

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=8


.

Thank you!

[vreihen16]

Over the weekend on that TV show, they announced real sad news. One of the deputies from Christian County, MO that camera crews ride with was killed in action on Monday of last week during a routine traffic stop. After the suspect shot/killed the deputy and fled that scene, there was a 9-hour manhunt that ended with a second deputy shot and killed with two additional deputies shot and hospitalized before the suspect was killed. Christian County is a small community, not a major city.

Be safe out there.....

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

Over the weekend on that TV show, they announced real sad news. One of the deputies from Christian County, MO that camera crews ride with was killed in action on Monday of last week during a routine traffic stop. After the suspect shot/killed the deputy and fled that scene, there was a 9-hour manhunt that ended with a second deputy shot and killed with two additional deputies shot and hospitalized before the suspect was killed. Christian County is a small community, not a major city.

Be safe out there.....

Wow! That is so saddening. It is rough out here.

[vreihen16]

There was an interesting pursuit last weekend on that TV show. A gang/drug officer driving a Ram/Hemi pickup patrol vehicle wound up in a seriously high-speed chase. After a few minutes, his engine got too hot and decided to go into de-rate mode. He was cursing the engine for overheating, because it wouldn't go faster than 104 MPH and he lost the vehicle being pursued.

Anyway, another one of their calls was a barricaded subject in a house. It started in the afternoon with an attempted armed car-jacking, and ended up with a 100% naked armed subject holed up in the car owner's house for 9-10 hours with SWAT and at least three other jurisdictions surrounding the house. The homeowner was outside the house with the police, and the subject was inside alone. What I thought strange was that the police had to obtain a search warrant before SWAT could force entry...despite the homeowner being right there and I assume able to give permission to enter his own house. Is this normal, or a quirk in the laws of their jurisdiction?????

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

There was an interesting pursuit last weekend on that TV show. A gang/drug officer driving a Ram/Hemi pickup patrol vehicle wound up in a seriously high-speed chase. After a few minutes, his engine got too hot and decided to go into de-rate mode. He was cursing the engine for overheating, because it wouldn't go faster than 104 MPH and he lost the vehicle being pursued.

Anyway, another one of their calls was a barricaded subject in a house. It started in the afternoon with an attempted armed car-jacking, and ended up with a 100% naked armed subject holed up in the car owner's house for 9-10 hours with SWAT and at least three other jurisdictions surrounding the house. The homeowner was outside the house with the police, and the subject was inside alone. What I thought strange was that the police had to obtain a search warrant before SWAT could force entry...despite the homeowner being right there and I assume able to give permission to enter his own house. Is this normal, or a quirk in the laws of their jurisdiction?????

I’ll explain the search warrant thing.

You are correct that the homeowner can sign a “Search-Entry Waiver” allowing law enforcement to enter the home and conduct lawful business. The reason a search warrant is sought is because the warrant is magistrate review, and it removes any wiggle room for a defense attorney to use in an effort to get their client off. It also removes the ability for a homeowner to stop the search; a homeowner granted entry is revocable at any time since it is voluntary. You will see the same approach employed if we see evidence in plain sight that is related to a crime. Rather than retrieve it immediately - which we absolutely can - we will write a warrant so a defense attorney cannot use a loophole to rule it inadmissible.

TLDR: No, the warrant isn’t/wasn’t necessary under those circumstances, but it is done that way to castrate a route for the defense.

[swcrow]

Okay here's one.....

Daughter's college roommate has a college guy that has been stalking her. She's talked to her college counselor and then the college police dept. The police then talked to the boy and told him he's not allowed to be within XX feet of her. A few weeks have gone by and now said college guy is conveniently finding a way to be in her space.....library (he knows her schedule), class buildings/floor/section (again, knows her schedule) even slowly driving by her on an adjacent college road to where she's sitting on a bench...etc, etc.

What else can she legally do? Re-up the concern with the college police?

I'm not involved yet, but because of her disfunctional home life, I'm trying to act as a stand-in dad with advice.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by swcrow

Okay here's one.....

Daughter's college roommate has a college guy that has been stalking her. She's talked to her college counselor and then the college police dept. The police then talked to the boy and told him he's not allowed to be within XX feet of her. A few weeks have gone by and now said college guy is conveniently finding a way to be in her space.....library (he knows her schedule), class buildings/floor/section (again, knows her schedule) even slowly driving by her on an adjacent college road to where she's sitting on a bench...etc, etc.

What else can she legally do? Re-up the concern with the college police?

I'm not involved yet, but because of her disfunctional home life, I'm trying to act as a stand-in dad with advice.

It doesn’t sound like she has a court issued restraining order based on your summarization of events, so this is more like a campus personnel/campus police intervention; what I like to call, “the first steps”.

I would first advise her to begin keeping a log of dates/times/locations where he is presenting himself as well as the dates/times she notified school personnel and the campus police department; have her get names and titles….make people go on record. Have her present the documented details to personnel and the school police department again, and advise them they need to reconcile this issue or she will request a restraining order.

Once the restraining order is in place, one of two things will happen: a) he will either need to find another school to study at immediately, or b) he will have court issued restrictions on how close he can be in proximity and any violation of that court order results in an arrest. The latter will present a difficult issue for the school to adequately monitor at all times, so it is likely they’d require him to unenroll. Faced with that threat, he may chill out, but as I’ve seen with these creeper types, they get hyper focused and fixated on the victim and it is problematic.