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[monterey]

Is there any particular reason why people run square setup vs. Staggered? I've been waiting for a staggered setup but only squares come up.

[Aubie4Pres]

You can rotate tires front to back is the primary reason on street car. Also, from a style perspective running a wider wheel up front with a deeper dish looks better.

I'll let others explain why they do it for the track.

[imserious]

Mostly to allow for tire rotation.

It also counteracts understeer giving you a more neutral to oversteering balance. Not sure if that really works though unless you turn traction control all the way off.

[doogee]

I found a square setup led to too much oversteer at the track.

[Fearce]

Originally Posted by doogee

I found a square setup led to too much oversteer at the track.

I've run about 125 miles on track with a square NT01 setup and find it a pleasure. I have not had any oversteer issues, and this is with a VT2-625 and DSC off.

[doogee]

Originally Posted by Fearce

I've run about 125 miles on track with a square NT01 setup and find it a pleasure. I have not had any oversteer issues, and this is with a VT2-625 and DSC off.

Well then we must have very different driving styles. These cars are not neutral with a square setup and stock alignment/suspension.

A square setup would probably feel decent on a tighter slower speed track, but at a track like Mosport with average corner speeds being around 100mph, the car is not stable.

[Fearce]

Originally Posted by doogee

Well then we must have very different driving styles. These cars are not neutral with a square setup and stock alignment/suspension.

A square setup would probably feel decent on a tighter slower speed track, but at a track like Mosport with average corner speeds being around 100mph, the car is not stable.

That's an important distinction to make that likely gets missed when discussing this topic. Indeed my track time has been on slower speed circuits with a few bends at >100mph but not any true corners at that speed.

You would certainly set up your car differently for a higher speed track.

[macdude357]

Originally Posted by Fearce

That's an important distinction to make that likely gets missed when discussing this topic. Indeed my track time has been on slower speed circuits with a few bends at >100mph but not any true corners at that speed.

You would certainly set up your car differently for a higher speed track.

Would a high kick spoiler help keep the rear planted during high speed turns?

You could also run slightly lower pressures in the rear to add a little more grip in the rear as well, right?

[doogee]

Originally Posted by macdude357

Would a high kick spoiler help keep the rear planted during high speed turns?

Spoilers unfortunately aren't quite that effective unless mounted through the trunk, directly attached the the chassis. You'd also need some pretty stiff springs to transmit the downforce to the ground.

Would it help a little bit? Yeah sure at quite high speeds.

[cenix]

Originally Posted by macdude357

You could also run slightly lower pressures in the rear to add a little more grip in the rear as well, right?

Generally, lower pressures in the rear will give less grip, more oversteer.