Other Fee's

BMW Dreamer · 03-29-2008, 10:17 PM

I asked this question before and couldn't get an answer.

After the deal is finished with the numbers, besides tax what else is added? License transfer=how much? Title=how much, DOC fee=how much. So basically after the new car and trade-in values and tax are added, how much more total $$$ to expect? My Civic Si was $165 total after trade and tax. :iono:

PA135i · 03-30-2008, 12:16 AM

Depends what state your in for the tax, but here in PA you can figure 7% after the trade. ie. 10,000 trade / 40,000 for the car - $30,000 x 7% = total cost

BMW Dreamer · 03-30-2008, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kja325ci

Depends what state your in for the tax, but here in PA you can figure 7% after the trade. ie. 10,000 trade / 40,000 for the car - $30,000 x 7% = total cost

Thanks but I need to know the extra's after tax. I know my state tax. I need to know BMW's DOC fee's and whatever else they add.
Title, license, DOC, etc.

Example.

135i $40,000
Trade -$14,000
=$26,000
Tax +$1,690
Total =$27,690

Now what else? License, Title, Doc fee, etc.

I read about 1 person who said BMW charged him a $399 BMW Doc fee. When bought my Civic Si the License, Title, Doc fee was $165.00

AchtungF80 · 03-30-2008, 08:10 AM

The Doc fee varies from dealer to dealer... Good luck getting out of paying that!

BMW Dreamer · 03-30-2008, 08:20 AM

Thanks sir. I really hate the idea of sitting down in a BMW dealer. I have traded and owned many diff brand cars and trucks and didn't mind the sales bull, but I feel like a skum bag going into a BMW dealer. First they will offer me crap for my trade, ask MSRP for the for their car, and possibly add some BMW charge. I guess even RICH people haggle with price.

When I was checking out the 335i coupe last year I drove up in an 07 Acura TL-S, now when I drive up in a Civic, WOW, they think I am some poor skum bag. I just DRED doing the deal when I order one.

atr_hugo · 03-30-2008, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff1962

I guess even RICH people haggle with price.

Why do you think they're rich? ; -) You betcha they haggle!

PA135i · 03-30-2008, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff1962

Thanks but I need to know the extra's after tax. I know my state tax. I need to know BMW's DOC fee's and whatever else they add.
Title, license, DOC, etc.

Example.

135i $40,000
Trade -$14,000
=$26,000
Tax +$1,690
Total =$27,690

Now what else? License, Title, Doc fee, etc.

I read about 1 person who said BMW charged him a $399 BMW Doc fee. When bought my Civic Si the License, Title, Doc fee was $165.00

I was not clear in my answer to you. In PA sales tax is 6%. I will calculate another 1% for the addtional fees. This should get you in the ballpark.

OzF16 · 03-30-2008, 10:10 PM

My dealer charged me $399 for "Fee for processing title, registration and tags, and consumer services." The $399 fee is pre-printed on the order form, and there was also a sign on the wall stating that all customers are required to pay this fee.

Bastards.

BMW Dreamer · 03-30-2008, 10:12 PM

HIGHWAY robbery. BMW gets away with it. WOW.

raisemyrent · 03-30-2008, 10:19 PM

Interesting, that "admin fee" exists in Canada as well. At one dealer it was 395 and at another it was 399... but that's canadian dollars.
One SA once told me that it covers a loaner car for when you need it.

BMW Dreamer · 03-30-2008, 10:23 PM

HMMM. I thought a loaner car was included while under warranty. From what I have read about BMW's the $399 for a loaner when ever its needed will probably pay for its self in the first year. Maybe it should be $3,999.00

john970 · 03-31-2008, 03:20 AM

fwiw, I negotiated 1500 over invoice and that included the "doc fee". From what I've learned it's profit for the dealer - its like charging for prepping the car from the VPC, except there is probably a policy against that otherwise they'd charge $400 for that and spend 30 minutes prepping the car.

I was confused on this at first also.

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BMW Dreamer Colonel 72 Rep 2,387 Posts Drives: Modded 06 TL Manual Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Northern IL. iTrader: (0)	Other Fee's I asked this question before and couldn't get an answer. After the deal is finished with the numbers, besides tax what else is added? License transfer=how much? Title=how much, DOC fee=how much. So basically after the new car and trade-in values and tax are added, how much more total $$$ to expect? My Civic Si was $165 total after trade and tax. :iono:
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PA135i Brigadier General 969 Rep 3,323 Posts Drives: 08 135i 08 CR-V Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pennsylvania iTrader: (0)	Depends what state your in for the tax, but here in PA you can figure 7% after the trade. ie. 10,000 trade / 40,000 for the car - $30,000 x 7% = total cost
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BMW Dreamer Colonel 72 Rep 2,387 Posts Drives: Modded 06 TL Manual Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Northern IL. iTrader: (0)	Thanks sir. I really hate the idea of sitting down in a BMW dealer. I have traded and owned many diff brand cars and trucks and didn't mind the sales bull, but I feel like a skum bag going into a BMW dealer. First they will offer me crap for my trade, ask MSRP for the for their car, and possibly add some BMW charge. I guess even RICH people haggle with price. When I was checking out the 335i coupe last year I drove up in an 07 Acura TL-S, now when I drive up in a Civic, WOW, they think I am some poor skum bag. I just DRED doing the deal when I order one.
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OzF16 BMF 2 Rep 84 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0)	My dealer charged me $399 for "Fee for processing title, registration and tags, and consumer services." The $399 fee is pre-printed on the order form, and there was also a sign on the wall stating that all customers are required to pay this fee. Bastards. __________________ 135i SGM, Coral Red Leather, Gray Poplar Trim, 6MT, Sport pkg, Premium pkg, Cold Wx pkg, Comfort Access, Premium Hi-Fi, Satellite Radio Delivered May 12th!
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BMW Dreamer Colonel 72 Rep 2,387 Posts Drives: Modded 06 TL Manual Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Northern IL. iTrader: (0)	HIGHWAY robbery. BMW gets away with it. WOW.
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raisemyrent Captain 43 Rep 910 Posts Drives: Black Sapphire 428i xD GC Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Vancouver, BC iTrader: (0)	Interesting, that "admin fee" exists in Canada as well. At one dealer it was 395 and at another it was 399... but that's canadian dollars. One SA once told me that it covers a loaner car for when you need it. __________________ 435i Coupe Estoril Blue on Black X Drive, M Sport Package Stage II, Premium Package
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BMW Dreamer Colonel 72 Rep 2,387 Posts Drives: Modded 06 TL Manual Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Northern IL. iTrader: (0)	HMMM. I thought a loaner car was included while under warranty. From what I have read about BMW's the $399 for a loaner when ever its needed will probably pay for its self in the first year. Maybe it should be $3,999.00
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john970 1er 73 Rep 1,205 Posts Drives: 08 135 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denver iTrader: (0)	fwiw, I negotiated 1500 over invoice and that included the "doc fee". From what I've learned it's profit for the dealer - its like charging for prepping the car from the VPC, except there is probably a policy against that otherwise they'd charge $400 for that and spend 30 minutes prepping the car. I was confused on this at first also.
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